Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Scribe]

Oh man that 10 gb HDD

Had one of those, not that exact model, and it was a great machine honestly at the time.

 

[JEB]

Sure I was referring to mp3 as the modern convenient format. Far more compressed than CD. Like vinyl the CDs will start to degrade over time as well, but the sweet sound is so worth it.

I'm rather fond of the lossless FLAC format, available on places like Bandcamp. But that's overall much harder to find than MP3 (and doesn't play on as many non-desktop platforms by default).

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Sure I was referring to mp3 as the modern convenient format. Far more compressed than CD. Like vinyl the CDs will start to degrade over time as well, but the sweet sound is so worth it.

What amuses me about the purely electronic formats (for any product- music, books, movies, games, whatever) is that after decade or more of companies saying that your “purchases” wouldn’t go away*, some companies have actually started pulling products from their “shelves” making them unavailable.

Sometimes it’s because a IP creator decided they no longer want their products to be on the market. Other reasons exist as well. But the end result is the same: the end user no longer has access to something they paid money for. Your purchases are merely licenses.




* except via inevitable obsolescence

 

[JEB]

What amuses me about the purely electronic formats (for any product- music, books, movies, games, whatever) is that after decade or more of companies saying that your “purchases” wouldn’t go away*, some companies have actually started pulling products from their “shelves” making them unavailable.

Sometimes it’s because a IP creator decided they no longer want their products to be on the market. Other reasons exist as well. But the end result is the same: the end user no longer has access to something they paid money for. Your purchases are merely licenses.

I wholeheartedly agree in principle, but digital music is generally an exception to this problem - you can download and keep MP3s (and other formats). Even purchases from Amazon... though they'd much rather you use their streaming. They may disappear from where you bought them, but you can still keep them (if you have the storage).

 

[payn]

What amuses me about the purely electronic formats (for any product- music, books, movies, games, whatever) is that after decade or more of companies saying that your “purchases” wouldn’t go away*, some companies have actually started pulling products from their “shelves” making them unavailable.

Sometimes it’s because a IP creator decided they no longer want their products to be on the market. Other reasons exist as well. But the end result is the same: the end user no longer has access to something they paid money for. Your purchases are merely licenses.




* except via inevitable obsolescence

I thought I would mind it, but I really dont. Sounds funny for a vinyl guy but thats just a specific hobby for me. I ditched all my DVDs, CDs, and most of my physical books and its not bothered me at all. I am staring at a book full of burned material and cant tell the last time I even opened it. Im just not a repeat kind of guy that I worry about the thousands of pieces of media I consume. I cant take it with me either.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

You may be right- I don’t mess with such things other than as backups for physical media- but I’ve found numerous pages on missing/removed downloads. I’m sure there’s workarounds.

But until my house burns down or Texas secedes and my stuff is outlawed, I’ve got a wonderful music collection that nobody can take away. It’s always “within reach”, and I can make my own mp3s from them.

Now, if only there were portable players on the market that could handle that big of a music library.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I thought I would mind it, but I really dont. Sounds funny for a vinyl guy but thats just a specific hobby for me. I ditched all my DVDs, CDs, and most of my physical books and its not bothered me at all. I am staring at a book full of burned material and cant tell the last time I even opened it. Im just not a repeat kind of guy that I worry about the thousands of pieces of media I consume. I cant take it with me either.

I don’t revisit most of my books, but music? Music is different.

Like the recent Weezer song, “Records”, I have a mental soundtrack running in my head almost constantly. I can recall stuff from decades past- in 2010 or so, I IDed a song used in an NFL promo as Billy Cobham’s “Stratus” (1973)…and grabbed it from my collection to prove it. I did likewise with their use of Brian Eno’s “Fractal Zoom” (1992) during game broadcasts. (My ability to do this surprises people, including my Mom who was a professional music teacher.)*

Then there’s learning how to play some of them on guitar…

To memorize this stuff requires repetition. Sharing with another requires actually playing the music. So my CDs get used.

To be clear: I do forget some stuff. There’s an old Barry White or Isaac Hayes tune I’ve been looking for for 10+ years. I can remember parts of the bassline enough for other music-heads to say it’s familiar. But nobody remembers it. But that’s an exception.

Now, if I could only remember the names of all my best friends’ wives & kids, who have invited me into their homes, etc..






* I do similar stunts with RPG rules I use a lot.

 

[payn]

I don’t revisit most of my books, but music? Music is different.

Like the recent Weezer song, “Records”, I have a mental soundtrack running in my head almost constantly. I can recall stuff from decades past- in 2010 or so, I IDed a song used in an NFL promo as Billy Cobham’s “Stratus” (1973)…and grabbed it from my collection to prove it. I did likewise with their use of Brian Eno’s “Fractal Zoom” (1992) during game broadcasts. (My ability to do this surprises people, including my Mom who was a professional music teacher.)*

Then there’s learning how to play some of them on guitar…

To memorize this stuff requires repetition. Sharing with another requires actually playing the music. So my CDs get used.

To be clear: I do forget some stuff. There’s an old Barry White or Isaac Hayes tune I’ve been looking for for 10+ years. I can remember parts of the bassline enough for other music-heads to say it’s familiar. But nobody remembers it. But that’s an exception.

Now, if I could only remember the names of all my best friends’ wives & kids, who have invited me into their homes, etc..






* I do similar stunts with RPG rules I use a lot.

A quick google search to prove I know what im talking about will suffice (though grabbing the CD is pretty cool). I just dont run into situations I cant youtube or stream service find the tracks im looking for. Though, maybe "the man" will have the last laugh one day when I want to learn the parts of Three Strange Days from School of Fish and cant find it.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

A quick google search to prove I know what im talking about will suffice (though grabbing the CD is pretty cool). I just dont run into situations I cant youtube or stream service find the tracks im looking for. Though, maybe "the man" will have the last laugh one day when I want to learn the parts of Three Strange Days from School of Fish and cant find it.

Keep me in your Rolodex…errrr…contacts app and I’ve got you covered.

(Yes, I do actually have that one.)

FWIW, you’d probably do better on YouTube instead of Google.

 

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