D&D (2024) New stealth rules.

[Micah Sweet]

And if none of those occurs, it doesn't end.

You could spend years walking around a city, whispering, not attack anyone, casting any spells with a Verbal component, or being found by an enemy.

That's interesting. You could just hang out, talking to your friends in a whisper, wondering why no one takes your lunch order...

 

[Micah Sweet]

And if you didn't need to be in cover, then the ability could just read "your attack doesn't end the invisible condition". They specify needing cover, because the intent of the stealth rules are needing to break line of sight.



And if the hiding woman moves in front of you, she is no longer hiding, is she?

Except she is, until I successfully take an action to make a perception check.

 

[mamba]

I just shake my head. In what way having invisible characters that can be seen just by looking in their direction makes for an intuitive and streamlined rule? I'm eagerly looking forward to when I'll have to explain this rule to a new player.

I certainly never will, I do not explain rules I am not using

 

[Nijay]

Is there a way to move silently in these new rules?

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Did someone ask Crawford an ''explain me like I'm 5 yo'' on a socials? I'm pretty sure even the designer cant explain the logical procedure of the stealth rules in 3-4 easy to follow steps. After a massive playtest, the best they could get was this convoluted mess?

 

[Thommy H-H]

Honestly, I think one of the big issues people are having here is that the word "invisible" has a load of baggage from fantasy fiction, superheroes, etc. You hear invisible, you think Invisible Man, you think magical powers. But invisible also just means "not visible" and I believe that's the sense in which the condition uses it. Ideally we'd have some other word that didn't carry all those connotations, like "unvisible" or something, but we don't.

 

[Pauln6]

They are trying to codify something that requires common sense to implement. The previous version didn't allow you to move sliently behind someone's back if they have direct line of sight even if they have no reason to look in your direction, even in low light conditions.

 

[KYRON45]

When did playing hide and seek get so hard?

 

[SpellObjectEnthusiast]

It actually all works pretty well if you assume the “invisible” condition doesn’t actually make you invisible. Which, to be fair, the text of the condition never actually say it does.

This is so stupid. WotC should not be printing rules which require rejection of common sense to function.

 

[SpellObjectEnthusiast]

Is there a way to move silently in these new rules?

Ask your GM