Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[payn]

I think one area where music has changed is the radio and rock. There are still plenty of thriving genres on teh radio, but rock specifically seems to be less prevalent on the air waves (and so discovering new rock music on the radio isn't as common for people). I realize this varies a lot by region but here our last indie rock station went away in the late 2000s. And the rock that does exist is almost entirely classic (which covers more ground than it used to, but still nothing current)

Its true indie rock (which there is a lot of and more being added all the time) has become, once again, rather alternative. I think a lot of that has to do with how diverse and nuanced rock has become. Its not easy like country, hip hop, Jazz, etc.. to package in a consistent manner. Not saying those genres dont have variety, but they have a pop consistency that rock has become unshackled from. Which is why "classic" rock is as close as it gets for most of radio.

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[Bedrockgames]

Its true indie rock (which there is a lot of and more being added all the time) has become, once again, rather alternative. I think a lot of that has to do with how diverse and nuanced rock has become. Its not easy like country, hip hop, Jazz, etc.. to package in a consistent manner. Not saying those genres dont have variety, but they have a pop consistency that rock has become unshackled from. Which is why "classic" rock is as close as it gets for most of radio.

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There has always been independent genres in rock though. Growing up I was largely into stuff you couldn't get on the radio. But there was a mainstream rock presence that made rock culturally relevant, and also allowed for those less known genres to occasionally rise into more public consciousness. I think there is still lots of good rock music coming out. But I do miss being able to discover new rock on the radio and it being more culturally relevant

 

[payn]

There has always been independent genres in rock though. Growing up I was largely into stuff you couldn't get on the radio. But there was a mainstream rock presence that made rock culturally relevant, and also allowed for those less known genres to occasionally rise into more public consciousness. I think there is still lots of good rock music coming out. But I do miss being able to discover new rock on the radio and it being more culturally relevant

By culturally relevant, do you mean mainstream pop? Im a little confused becasue the local and national scene here is rather strongly represented.

 

[briggart]

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[Bedrockgames]

By culturally relevant, do you mean mainstream pop? Im a little confused becasue the local and national scene here is rather strongly represented.

Which national scene?

I mean it isn't mainstream. it isn't part of the broader culture the way it used to be, or the way things like hip-hop, pop and country are today

Like I said, there is really no new rock on the radio here

 

[payn]

Which national scene?

I mean it isn't mainstream. it isn't part of the broader culture the way it used to be, or the way things like hip-hop, pop and country are today

Like I said, there is really no new rock on the radio here

Bonnaru, SxSW, Riot fest, Shaky Knees, The Hangout, the list of major rock festivals goes on and on. There is a new one upstarting every year in nearly every state. Head over to Pitchfork and you will see a dozen or more albums drop every month. It might not be on the radio where you are at, but its happening everywhere if you know where to look.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Bonnaru, SxSW, Riot fest, Shaky Knees, The Hangout, the list of major rock festivals goes on and on. There is a new one upstarting every year in nearly every state. Head over to Pitchfork and you will see a dozen or more albums drop every month. It might not be on the radio where you are at, but its happening everywhere if you know where to look.

I am not saying new music isn't out there. I said that in my initial post. But again these things are not part of the mainstream culture the way they were before."If you know where to look" is the key. If you know where to look has always been around but there used to be that plus simply turning on the radio and discovering new bands that other people were also hearing on the radio. There was a broader shared culture around mainstream rock. Personally I liked having that. I thought it was good for rock to have a mainstream presence

 

[payn]

I am not saying new music isn't out there. I said that in my initial post. But again these things are not part of the mainstream culture the way they were before."If you know where to look" is the key. If you know where to look has always been around but there used to be that plus simply turning on the radio and discovering new bands that other people were also hearing on the radio. There was a broader shared culture around mainstream rock. Personally I liked having that. I thought it was good for rock to have a mainstream presence

I guess the presence is really strong here so I never felt it went away. Bands I see regularly tour all over the country its not like you have to go to back alley gin joints with secret knocks to find them.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Head over to Pitchfork and you will see a dozen or more albums drop every month.

Sure stuff like this is always an option. I guess my point tis something feels different in the past five to ten years in particular (and maybe that is just a natural shift, the way TV isn't relevantt the way it used to be). I can go to places like loud wire, metal sucks, blabbermouth. I will find new music and new albums. But the bands that aren't legacy acts, they are operating in a very different environment and don't seem to have access to he same kind of visibility the legacy acts once had

 

[Bedrockgames]

I guess the presence is really strong here so I never felt it went away. Bands I see regularly tour all over the country its not like you have to go to back alley gin joints with secret knocks to find them.

Yeah I am not saying you can't see this stuff at large venues. I am saying it isn't part of the mainstream culture like it is when it is on major radio stations and it isn't as broadly shared (i.e. when was the last time an album landed massively like Appetite for Destruction?). I just don't get the impression there are these massive rock bands the way there used to be. Which isn't to say there isn't good rock music coming out. It is just saying things feel quite different from the MTV days