D&D General Of Consent, Session 0 and Hard Decisions.

[Steampunkette]

When it comes to China, I suspect there's a difference between what the government finds offensive and what regular people find offensive. I doubt your average Chinese person playing World of Warcraft is going to be offended by the western portrayal of Forsaken with their exposed bones.

I suspect the Chinese VTT would be completely separate from whatever we're using here in North America.

To be clear:

It's not a matter of the government finding it "Offensive". In fact there is no ban on skeletons in movies or games in China, contrary to popular American myth.

It's just considered unlucky/repulsive/gross based on religious taboos tied to the Chinese Folk Religion. So American companies cover up bones and stuff so their stuff sells to as many people in China as possible for the biggest return on investment for the money spent on localization.

You want boney undead and ghosts all up in your game? Do it. It'll still sell. But it won't sell as much because of people who don't like that kind of thing.

 

[MGibster]

It's not a matter of the government finding it "Offensive". In fact there is no ban on skeletons in movies or games in China, contrary to popular American myth.

Thanks! I thought the government censored that kind of thing.

 

[bedir than]

If me and my friends play poker every Friday and one of the group decides they hate poker now and want to play chess we don’t stop playing poker. We wish them best in their chess endeavor and keep on playing poker.

I didn't talk about no longer playing the same game.

Are you suggesting that if someone in your group has a life-changing incident and no longer wanted X within their gaming group you'd rather kick them out than adjust the campaign?

 

[FrogReaver]

I didn't talk about no longer playing the same game.

I think it’s pretty much the same thing.

Are you suggesting that if someone in your group has a life-changing incident and no longer wanted X within their gaming group you'd rather kick them out than adjust the campaign?

Had a guy that played with us for a bit on roll20 and then up and refused to use roll20 some months later. We didn’t stop using roll20. Didn’t have to kick him though. He left of his own accord.

 

[Vaalingrade]

When it comes to China, I suspect there's a difference between what the government finds offensive and what regular people find offensive. I doubt your average Chinese person playing World of Warcraft is going to be offended by the western portrayal of Forsaken with their exposed bones.

I suspect the Chinese VTT would be completely separate from whatever we're using here in North America.

That's... not what I'm expecting when somemone says 'Chinese people'.

I more suspect it means 'literally anyone from East Asia' like so sadly often it means.

 

[FrogReaver]

That's... not what I'm expecting when somemone says 'Chinese people'.

I more suspect it means 'literally anyone from East Asia' like so sadly often it means.

Im kind of tired of taking the flak for someone else’s example.

The Orig

If you're not playing with any Chinese people it won't come up on a safety sheet and won't have any impact on the game.

If you are, and it does, -then- you make a few minor changes to accommodate and everyone has a fun time. (And for some Chinese people, it won't appear on the safety sheet, anyway, because they personally don't have a problem with it)

 

[Steampunkette]

That's... not what I'm expecting when somemone says 'Chinese people'.

I more suspect it means 'literally anyone from East Asia' like so sadly often it means.

Oh, no, I literally meant "People who grew up and live in Chinese culture" because it's specifically the Chinese Folk Religion which has the taboos around skeletons/ghosts/etc.

Sort of like how Japanese people have changed the word for the number Four from "Shi" to "Yon" because of how close "Shi" is to "Shin" which is death in English. Just like you won't find a 13th floor in most American buildings, you won't find a 4th floor in most Japanese ones.

Also 7th floor. Because they've changed "Shichi" to "Nana" for the same reason.

 

[bedir than]

I think it’s pretty much the same thing.

Had a guy that played with us for a bit on roll20 and then up and refused to use roll20 some months later. We didn’t stop using roll20. Didn’t have to kick him though. He left of his own accord.

Except people aren't talking about playing poker or Roll20 when they are talking about safety tools.

They're talking about the worst aspects of humanity. Aspects that leave lasting traumas.

Why treat a friend like that

 

[MGibster]

Are you suggesting that if someone in your group has a life-changing incident and no longer wanted X within their gaming group you'd rather kick them out than adjust the campaign?

My blanket answer would be, "I'd probably just avoid X if the player asks." I had one player with a severe case of arachnophobia, and it was really no trouble to exclude spiders from the fantasy game I ran. These situations can be complex and while it's helpful to have a blanket policy, I'd probably look at each situation individually.

1. Start with the assumption the accommodation request is genuine. Respect their privacy and don't require them to justify their request.

2. Can X be avoided without fundamentally altering the game? (Avoiding spiders in D&D is usually easy but avoiding magic is a bit more difficult.)

3. Would X place any burden on the other players?

I'm guessing the vast majority of these requests are easy to accommodate.

 

[Zardnaar]

I didn't talk about no longer playing the same game.

Are you suggesting that if someone in your group has a life-changing incident and no longer wanted X within their gaming group you'd rather kick them out than adjust the campaign?

In that scenario its incompatible desires. No one's an AH.

In my players pool I have some who will play anything some who will only play 5E or OSR. Others can only make one times slot.

The ones who will play anything, can make both time slots and are keen on board games or whatever will have advantages over those who can't/won't.

My next game might be AD&D (run alongside 5E) and not everyone might be keen on AD&D. Might be Star Wars I do get sick of D&D.

One timeslot is 5E, ones OSR. I'll try and get everyone in at least 1 game I can't gurantee both.

I can't compromise on time slots. That one shoukd he obvious. Family/work>games.

I'm looking at a third game either an occasional one or alternating bi weekly or something. That's a tonight and Sunday problem.

At some point it's here's when I'm available and what I'm running. You're invited up to you if you want to play. Once they get past that (eg I don't want to play whatever) we can have a discussion over what's in said game.

I'm not running Fallout RPG even if every player asks.