Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
So maybe...make sure those tropes aren't perpetuated in your games by not using them?And...
You may not see the point. Others do.
So maybe...make sure those tropes aren't perpetuated in your games by not using them?And...
You may not see the point. Others do.
Orcs +Radiation = Half OrcsI have a New idea for a half-orc origin not involving crossbreeding![]()
And...
You may not see the point. Others do.
The moderators when they closed the thread.Who won last time?
The moderators when they closed the thread.
So you think that depicting racism as a bad thing in a story, showing how it hurts people, is "a racist trope?"
There's plenty of other stories that depict the effects of racism depicting real world people and cultures. I don't think there's a need to create a fantasy race, a "half-anything", and then set them at odds as stand-ins for real world racism.
Also not a Critter, so I'm asking for clarification.Yes, and? The point obviously was their father was a racist prick from somewhat isolationst elven nation. It in no way did show this as a good thing. Not that this is or needs to be the only story one tells with half-elves, but why it is one that should be avoided? And of course we saw different attitude in CR as well. Keyleth is also an half-elf, (daughter of two half-elves,) but from a multispecies commune where no one has any issue with this.
They aren't being "set" as anything. There are many possible narratives.There's plenty of other stories that depict the effects of racism depicting real world people and cultures. I don't think there's a need to create a fantasy race, a "half-anything", and then set them at odds as stand-ins for real world racism.
Why? What is bad bout this? Why can we not have allegory? Especially if that is not the only story one can tell with those characters, merely an option if one wants to? Like for example in CR the Exandria in most part is very egalitarian species-wise, so if you want to play a half-elf and not deal with such issues that is super easy to do. In fact, in most cases half-elves, half-orcs and uniyas (elf-orcs) are shown in CR to be just a natural outcome of different species peacefully coexisting. But the fact that there exists this one elven culture with these racist values makes it possible to tell stories about that too, if one so chooses. Why is this mere possibility existing somehow a bad thing?
I really want a someone to explain to me how we got to the point where depicting a bad thing in fiction in order to show it is bad became problematic. Like this is some weird horseshoe stuff where supposed progressive values lead to the same outcome as regressive ones.