Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

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why did i step into that discussion

 

[Scribe]

why did i step into that discussion

Because you obviously care about the topic a great deal.

 

[Scribe]

Anyway, I had a thought.

I dont have to like Pineapple. You all can enjoy Pineapple, but I dont have to like it at all. If the Pizza joint down the street decides to push Pineapple on everything, thats their choice, but I dont have to eat there.

If you are going to go all in on Pineapple, and thats all you are going to market towards, for Pineapple enjoyers, thats totally fine.

I'm not going to eat it though, and even if you pick it off, its still spoiled the pizza.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I'm not going to eat it though, and even if you pick it off, its still spoiled the pizza.

 

[Umbran]

Anyway, I had a thought.

I dont have to like Pineapple. You all can enjoy Pineapple, but I dont have to like it at all. If the Pizza joint down the street decides to push Pineapple on everything, thats their choice, but I dont have to eat there.

If you are going to go all in on Pineapple, and thats all you are going to market towards, for Pineapple enjoyers, thats totally fine.

I'm not going to eat it though, and even if you pick it off, its still spoiled the pizza.

A friend of mine doesn't like cheese. He isn't allergic, or lactose intolerant. He just doesn't like it. And that's fine. He gets to have his likes and dislikes, just like everyone else.

We sometimes have people over for semi-elaborate dinners, and when we do, we do our best to adapt to our guests' dietary restrictions and tastes.

When my friend was at one of our gatherings, we remembered that he didn't like cheese. So, when we put together the menu, when we wanted to make one dish with cheese, we made sure to make another option that didn't have a cheese-element. So, he could avoid cheese in his meal quite easily. But, it wasn't a health concern, so in the flurry of activity at service, we didn't think to warn him.

After his third helping of the one dish available that had cheese in it, he went, "Wait, is there cheese in this?" And he got kind of offended that he'd been "tricked" into eating cheese.

When the marketing telling you about pineapple is more important than the dish as a whole, it isn't really about the pineapple any more.

 

[Scribe]

When the marketing telling you about pineapple is more important than the dish as a whole, it isn't really about the pineapple any more.

I think it very much is about the pineapple, and the marketing forgot its about the pizza or should be, if they want to make a sale.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

We sometimes have people over for semi-elaborate dinners, and when we do, we do our best to adapt to our guests' dietary restrictions and tastes.

Heard that!

I’ve been the household’s main cook for more than a decade now, and it’s always an adventure accommodating everyone’s dietary concerns. Some are health related, some are religious-based, and there’s definitely some that are mere preferences. I take it as a challenge of sorts.

Hosting Thanksgiving 2015 was the biggest such challenge. Just days before the big event, I realized that all of the sides see had decided to cook contained some kind of pork, and we had Muslim & Jewish friends joining us. I reworked a few to use alternative meats, including my greens- I used smoked turkey instead of ham.

I was apprehensive, because our circle of family & friends includes a lot of good home cooks as well as caterers, former restaurant owners, professional cooks and even a couple trained chefs. You mess something up, you WILL hear about it.

It was such a thorough hit, smoked turkey became our new standard in our greens.

 

[RealAlHazred]

Thanks for bringing my attention to this; I was (I like to think) a good friend of Scott's (I was one of the players in the Hollywood Knights campaign) and when I get a moment I want to read your evaluations of his work.

Well, block out some time, then. Dude was prolific...

 

[Meech17]

Anyway, I had a thought.

I don't have to like Pineapple. You all can enjoy Pineapple, but I don't have to like it at all. If the Pizza joint down the street decides to push Pineapple on everything, that's their choice, but I don't have to eat there.

If you are going to go all in on Pineapple, and that's all you are going to market towards, for Pineapple enjoyers, that's totally fine.

I'm not going to eat it though, and even if you pick it off, its still spoiled the pizza.

There's a meme in the Magic: The Gathering community around the idea that "This Product is Not For You". I can't find the original now, but I believe it was Mark Rosewater saying it on his blog in response to someone asking about the glut of new products, and how the average consumer can't keep up with the current release cadence.

The idea that I'm not going to like everything that comes out in my hobby, and I am free to selectively pick and choose which parts I engage with is fine. I don't really have a problem with that. It does stink however when the thing that's not for me, ends up becoming the thing and I have to make the choice between engaging with product I may not be super keen on.. Or not engaging in the hobby at all....

There's also the whole issue with consumerism and having to vote with our wallets. It's an easy choice when it's something you don't like, you can confidently vote no.. But what happens when it's something on the border of what you like? I like Pizza, but perhaps I'd rather have non-pineapple pizza.. I know that Pizza company is trying out this Pizza thing, and if they sell enough of their pineapple pizzas they'll expand into more, perhaps non-pineapple based ones. Should I suck it up and buy the pineapple pizza in the hopes my dollars get counted when they decide whether or not making more pizza brings in enough shareholder value?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Of course these were then the same DMs who’d turn into the most antagonistic DMs imaginable because that’s what Gary would have done, etc, etc.

I think that one of the problems with Gygax is that his advice for other people was not the same as what he used for his own campaigns.

The stories of Gygax's home campaigns can indicate that characters died, of course, but they were a lot more fun and free-wheeling and less rules-bound (and certainly NOT antagonistic) than what people took from his writings.

Then again, he wrote so much, and so much that contradicted itself. I have a suspicion that people found meaning in the parts that they needed to support what they were already predisposed to do, while ignoring the other bits.

In my estimation, some people are just jerks. And whether they are a player or a DM, that doesn't disappear.