D&D (2024) Emanation damage point and linked exploits:

[DrJawaPhD]

Ah. High movement rate of owl and no OA’s. One could even ready action a move for off turn aoe damage. That’s impressive!

Wild shaping into a hasted owl increases the effectiveness (and silliness), but in most cases you can likely do this just fine as any class (that can cast any of the emanation spells). Unless you're in a space with very tight corridors, the 10-15 foot range of the emanation will generally allow this tactic to work by just never being in reach of opportunity attacks.

So it's already an extremely strong tactic even without the niche case presented in the video

 

[GnomeWorks]

So... apparently making summoning creatures balanced proved to be too difficult (and I won't judge folks for making that call, it's not exactly an easy thing to figure out), so you altered a spell that used to put actual creatures on the field to instead make an... aura that deals damage?

That... is a decision that you could make, I suppose.

 

[Selas]

So... apparently making summoning creatures balanced proved to be too difficult (and I won't judge folks for making that call, it's not exactly an easy thing to figure out), so you altered a spell that used to put actual creatures on the field to instead make an... aura that deals damage?

That... is a decision that you could make, I suppose.

Not really? WotC decided to change the conjure spells to make them different from the Summon X spells

 

[Horwath]

The easy fix is to make such spells work on a creature once per round, not per turn.

That is the house-rule we already used to fix such issues in 2014.

OFC that is the fix, however, why do WE have to do it?

This isn't some small tweak than many do for houserules to reflavor something a little(or more than a little).
This was so obviously broken that I cannot believe it went into printing.

Well, we also did got Twilight cleric in Tasha's, so, I guess anything can happen.

 

[ezo]

OFC that is the fix, however, why do WE have to do it?

This isn't some small tweak than many do for houserules to reflavor something a little(or more than a little).
This was so obviously broken that I cannot believe it went into printing.

Well, we also did got Twilight cleric in Tasha's, so, I guess anything can happen.

When it comes down to it, we shouldn't have had to. It is poor game design, plain and simple, IMO.

They seem to focus so much on turns in 5E, instead of rounds.

 

[mellored]

Ah. High movement rate of owl and no OA’s. One could even ready action a move for off turn aoe damage. That’s impressive!

Glamor can add even more extra turn movement.
Dance too, but not as much.

 

[mellored]

OFC that is the fix, however, why do WE have to do it?

They wanted to reduce the amount of things you had to track.

It's very simple and clear to run as written.

And it works fine if you play normally.


My suggestion
"Whenever the Emanation enters a creature's space on your turn...."

 

[Horwath]

They wanted to reduce the amount of things you had to track.

It's very simple to run as written.

hehe,
now we only have to track how many turns in specific combat is per round.

My suggestion
"Whenever the Emanation enters a creature's space on your turn...."

It should be, when you deal damage with this effect, you cannot deal damage again until the start of your next turn.

 

[mellored]

hehe,
now we only have to track how many turns in specific combat is per round.

Only if your calculating DPR.
Otherwise you just go in initiative order.

It should be, when you deal damage with this effect, you cannot deal damage again until the start of your next turn.

That's back to tracking who did what when.

Narratively it makes the most sense though.

 

[Horwath]

That's back to tracking who did what when.

well, you are tracking a spell cast by someone, and it should work on someones turn(or "recharge" radiation on that turn)

also, will we be getting some ruling on "cheese grater" combo with Spikegrowth? haha!