D&D 5E (2024) Will we see another Magic: The Gathering setting in Duskmourn?

[jayoungr]

Wouldn't there be too much overlap with Innistrad, which already has a D&D conversion?

 

[Tonguez]

Wouldn't there be too much overlap with Innistrad, which already has a D&D conversion?

No entirely different vibe, Innistrad is a neo-Gothic grimdark setting invoking Hammer Horror, Duskmourne is 80/90s Non-eucludian Psycho-Demon possessed Haunted House

 

[jayoungr]

No entirely different vibe, Innistrad is a neo-Gothic grimdark setting invoking Hammer Horror, Duskmourne is 80/90s Non-eucludian Psycho-Demon possessed Haunted House

Still, how many MtG-based horror settings can D&D realistically sustain in terms of official publications?

 

[Parmandur]

Still, how many MtG-based horror settings can D&D realistically sustain in terms of official publications?

To be fair, Innistrad didn't get a "publication," just a free booklet James Wyatt homebrewed for his home game that is now on the DMsGuild.

Duskmourn is specifically a very different style of Horror: and a D&D product that was a Megadungeon Adventure would make more sense for it, whereas Innistrad is more standard heroic fantasy with classic Horror tropes.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Ravnica sold like hotcakes, at least, and the numbers I recall seeing for Theros and Strichaven seemed OK...but it may be less about money, and more about how the people doing Magic brand management feel about "crossing the streams" currently.

There were over 20 years where both D&D and Magic marketing people thought mixing was bad for business, and that brief window where James Wyatt was in with both teams allowed that to happen.

Then again, they did list all three Magic Settings in the new DMG, and they are still in print...they could do a new one at anytime.

Ravnica and Theros did well, but I don't Strixhaven did well, the book wasn't well done and was a victim of the same sort of design philisophy that wrecked Planescape and Spelljammer and possibly Greyhawk. Plus the Plane of Arcvios was seriously undercooked, two continents and nothing was explored outside the schools. Plus they don't seem to know how D&D settings and MtG settings and races are supposed to interact, it's all over the place and messy with the door to merging them left open, but unused.

They really need to figure out what direction they want to take settings on both sides and commit to it and make it clear and figure out how to make it congruent with what's already releases.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Still, how many MtG-based horror settings can D&D realistically sustain in terms of official publications?

Well you also have Amonkhet that is Egypt & Zombie Apocalypse themed.

 

[Parmandur]

Ravnica and Theros did well, but I don't Strixhaven did well, the book wasn't well done and was a victim of the same sort of design philisophy that wrecked Planescape and Spelljammer and possibly Greyhawk. Plus the Plane of Arcvios was seriously undercooked, two continents and nothing was explored outside the schools. Plus they don't seem to know how D&D settings and MtG settings and races are supposed to interact, it's all over the place and messy with the door to merging them left open, but unused.

They really need to figure out what direction they want to take settings on both sides and commit to it and make it clear and figure out how to make it congruent with what's already releases.

I think they did figure thst out, that's what Greyhawk in the DMG is (and it is excellent, by the way).

Strixhaven's sales from bookscan seem fine

 

[Weiley31]

There is a Planeshift: Duskmourn created by a third-party-publisher. (and there are also planeshift articles about other planes: New Capena, Kamiwaga...)

Wait, what!?!? Where????

 

[Rainynights]

Wait, what!?!? Where????

Don't know if it's the same one the other person was talking about but if you go here there's setting docs for a bunch of MtG settings, including remakes of previous ones. Not all of the docs have properly built pdfs yet, but they all have a GMbinder link so you can always use their convert to pdf feature to grab the ones that aren't set up yet, in particular the innistrad one doesn't have a pdf for the most recent version so you'll miss out on angels for now if you cant get the print to pdf feature working(fair warning they are big so the print to pdf function takes a while to convert it for download)

 

[Meech17]

I don't think so. We see this speculation come up with a lot of the popular MTG planes, but I just don't think most of them are likely.

Bloomburrow would have been a good choice, but we've seen nothing on that front.

Duskmourn is also weird because of the weird 80's vibes. It's not just a horror themed set, but a horror movie themed set. There are a ton of references to thinks like Gremlin's, IT, Children of the Corn, Ghost Busters.. A lot of MTG players have lamented the set for being mostly great, flavorfully speaking. A lot of folks loved all the horror elements, like Valgavoth and the living house, but then were turned off by the inclusion of cheerleaders, jocks, and television sets.

Fortunately the set mechanics were good, the limited environment was good, and enough of the flavor was good that the set was generally well regarded, but it probably won't go down as an all time favorite.

I don't know if it'd be able to clear that hurdle in TTRPG space. I would imagine that WOTC figures that most people looking for the kind of game that would exist in this setting would probably turn towards something like Call of Cthulhu.

With that said, a while back Rosewater had mentioned that the set slated for Q1 2026 (Code name: Yachting) was going to be a return to Arcavios, the plane where Strixhaven is. Whether or not that's being pushed back with the new Universes Beyond in standard thing (The Return to Lorwyn set scheduled for the end of next year was pushed back, so I could see everything moving down the chain a little) is another question.. But I could see them trying to do another tie-in there..

What would be really cool is if WOTC would have their creative teams work on just small adventures set in some of these settings. They don't all need full-fledged hard cover core books, but I bet a little module set in Bloomburrow where the players are all turned into various woodland critters and need to hunt down and destroy a Calamity Beast before being able to return to their normal world would go over well.