D&D General Drow & Orcs Removed from the Monster Manual

[Bae'zel]

Geek moment: can you name the source with the only canonical appearance of orcs in Ravenloft prior to 5e?

That would be neat to know. I only remember 3e's "Caliban" as a replacement for Half-Orcs.

 

[Alzrius]

I definitely don’t remember. And I had most of the books (at least most of the 2E books and 1E). Which was it in?

There's Tosk (aka "The Brute") from the Carnival sourcebook. Also, there's an orc called Karhk ("of the Elf-Splitters") serving Iuz in the Cavitius portion of Die Vecna Die. And I believe there were orcs in the moors in I10 Ravenloft II: The House of Gryphon Hill.

 

[Bedrockgames]

There's Tosk (aka "The Brute") from the Carnival sourcebook. Also, there's an orc called Karhk ("of the Elf-Splitters") serving Iuz in the Cavitius portion of Die Vecna Die. And I believe there were orcs in the moors in I10 Ravenloft II: The House of Gryphon Hill.

Thanks

 

[Remathilis]

I definitely don’t remember. And I had most of the books (at least most of the 2E books and 1E). Which was it in?

That would be neat to know. I only remember 3e's "Caliban" as a replacement for Half-Orcs.

They appear on the random encounter table of Ravenloft 2: House on Gryphon Hill.

 

[Bolares]

They are supposed to use the NPC stat blocks.

Yes, I thought I wrote that, but looking at the post, seems like I forgot .

 

[TiQuinn]

Whereas a straw man isn't interesting at all, since I never said that.

Strawman, nothing. You said this.

Honestly, the entire idea that "phylactery" is a synonym for "tefillin" is one that's near-totally gentile in nature. While there might be Jewish communities out there that use the term phylactery, it's exceptionally nonstandard for a Greek term to be used, rather than a Hebrew one.

He was expressing a frustration that I've also experienced as a member of the Jewish community (and have heard others express): that the widespread insistence of using a Greek term for a religious implement that we (near-)universally refer to with a Hebrew word is nonsensical, and yet persists for no apparent reason other than ignorance.

So yes, I do think he woke up one day and decided to make a rant about how gentiles keep getting that wrong.

So yeah, maybe there's someone out there who calls teffilin "phylacteries" and who finds the use of that term in connection with liches offensive...but unless they're posting here, your availing yourself of this hypothetical personage as someone on whose behalf you're arguing against the actual member of the community you're ostensibly concerned with not offending is exceptionally backward.

Or to put it another way: don't be that goy.

 

[Bedrockgames]

They appear on the random encounter table of Ravenloft 2: House on Gryphon Hill.

That is one book I never managed to find

 

[Alzrius]

Strawman, nothing. You said this.

Literally none of the examples you give are of my saying "those who do [take offense] are probably not Jewish." This is you reading into what I said, rather than reading what I actually said.

 

[TiQuinn]

Nope, I'm done with this. I'm not going to play some word parsing game.

 

[Alzrius]

I'm not going to play some word parsing game.

If only more people had thought that before this entire tangent started.