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Why? So it can look like all the other art out there?

To me that'd seem to defeat much of the purpose.

Same principle as playing music - sometimes the very best stuff comes from people with no "professional" training whatsoever. They just play what sounds good, and how about that - it sounds good even though music teachers everywhere would squawk because it doesn't always follow the patterns and progressions etc. it's supposed to.

Design and composition have nothing to do with visual "style," which shows how little you actually know.
 

That's exactly why we post in this thread! ;)
And you mean illustrator, right... Artists make art, illustrators illustrate, the later work for their money.

Actually, if you went to any of the related industry conventions for fantasy illustration, such as Spectrum or IX (IlluXCon), you'd hear all the professionals that work on products like D&D, Magic, and the like refer to themselves interchangeably as being artists and illustrators. They aren't that pedantic about it. The fact you are shows that you are in no way close to being an actual artist, or an illustrator. What you are is a charlatan.
 

I know this is a controversial topic, and that is why we have this thread - so the conversation can stay here. Folks can easily avoid this discussion if they wish.

For the record, I don't use AI art in any of my commercial products, as you can easily verify. This thread is for experiments and fun only, from my perspective. Having said that, I suspect AI will play an increasing role in many/most professions in the future, including the creative arts.

Well, whenever you do decide to use it in your commercial work, I expect you'll start giving away your creative writing away as well, yes? If not, I, and others, will.

And why not just learn to draw? It's not only a lot more rewarding, but a lot more decent as well.
 

Design and composition have nothing to do with visual "style," which shows how little you actually know.
Design and composition in art are analagous to chords and chord progressions in music: "basic fundamentals" that sometimes the truly creative are better off never knowing about.

Metroido said:
And why not just learn to draw? It's not only a lot more rewarding, but a lot more decent as well.
If you ain't got the talent for it, no amount of "learning" is going to give you that talent.
 

And why not just learn to draw? It's not only a lot more rewarding, but a lot more decent as well.

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Well, whenever you do decide to use it in your commercial work, I expect you'll start giving away your creative writing away as well, yes? If not, I, and others, will.
Once the bots can write and draw as well as humans, it's an open question whether my publications will have much commercial value anymore. Myself and other indie creators are grappling with this now, and I know some who are planning to exit the industry before the "AI apocalypse" hits.

As someone who has put thousands of hours into the industry, it is a little deflating, to say the least. And the advancements in automated text generation have been more profound than those in illustration, in my view. Lots of people in marketing/comms have already been affected by this.

I know many creatives just want to ignore this technology, and that's their right. This approach seems unwise to me - it's like a 1990s newspaper publisher deciding to ignore the World Wide Web. The tech is going to transform industries whether we wish it to or not. This thread is one little way to stay abreast of things.
 



Design and composition in art are analagous to chords and chord progressions in music: "basic fundamentals" that sometimes the truly creative are better off never knowing about.

If you ain't got the talent for it, no amount of "learning" is going to give you that talent.

"Talent is the word you find in the mouths of the lazy to dismiss all of the hard work that someone else has invested. The word 'talent' implies that it didn't take anything on their part. 'It's a blessing. It's a gift. It's talent.'" - Myron Barnstone

This view demeans the artist as it makes it seem as if they are some sort of freak, somehow separate from the rest of the reasoning human race. Every other human disciple (Yes, even music and poetry) has a body of knowledge that one can learn and master. This does not necessarily mean that anyone can learn to be as good as Michelangelo. He was a genius, and genius is something different. But, anyone can learn to draw and paint competently. Yes, even competently enough to make money at it.

I suggest Googling Greg Manchess (he's a very famous fantasy illustrator) and seeing what he has to say about "talent." Spoiler Alert: He also thinks it's a myth. What you call talent just means they were interested enough in the subject and wanted to learn and so studied and worked hard at it.
 

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