D&D General Why Enworld should liberate D&D from Hasbro

[LuisCarlos17f]

It is OK to add characters from different origins but the mistake is when to promote a group other is desplaced or becomes the new outcast. Or at least we should avoid the old customers may feel like the new "little ugly duckling" or like the older brother who isn't any more the superstar of the home when the new baby has just born.

I don't like the tielflings being "promoted" while the noble-hearted aasimars have been relatively isolated or forgotten. They were showed like "I am a bad boy and I don't regret" when I would rather somebody more like Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler(X-Men) "the face of a demon but the heart of an angel".

Miss Marvel/Kamala Khan was created to be a "positive token". Nobody can guess when I remember she is from Pakistan and (disclaimer, possible controversial comment)the great rage I feel after reading in the web of Fides agency the horrible news about the native Christians who live in Pakistan. Does familiar the name Asia Bibi? you don't know what she suffered and at least she can tell it but others weren't so lucky. Sorry, I feel unconfortable because when somebody tries to clean the image of a group their possible dirty secrets are hidden. It sounds like two tiers. I don't blame Disney too much if they didn't know what happens in Pakistan but I know it and I don't like it.

The cartoon movie "Aztec Batman" is one of the last examples of entertaiment industry used for propaganda or to promote ideological prejudices. When I say speculative fiction should be "ideologically neutral" I mean we don't want to be used for propaganda like this. [Disclaimer: possible controversy about History]What do you know about the flower wars? Did you know the reason because Tlaxcaltecs and other native people allied with Spaniards against the Mexica empire? or after the civil Inca war Altahualpa used his brother Huascar's skull like a cup to drink? Has anybody told you about the genocide in California, or in Tasmania, the path of tears in the Mississipi or Amritsar massacre (India 1919), or the lost lifes by hunger in India caused by Wiston Churhill, or the crimes in Philipinas by the general Jacob H. Smith? This is not "you are worse" but "don't dare to open your mouth to say I should feel guilty and ashamed when your own past isn't cleaner". If you only talk about sins by ones but nothing about others then it is two tier. If you want to talk about History take care because maybe the other knows more than you.

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You could say "Aztec Batman: clash of empires" is only a movie, fiction, but we know today Emilio Salgari's "Captain Tempesta" (and its sequel "the Lion of Damscu") can't be adapted to a cinematographic production (or videogame) because the evil guys wear turbant. is it or isn't it two tier or double standars? In my land we say "to use double stick to measure". Emilio Salgari's work is public domain. Why not a videogame of "Captain Tempesta" where one of the first action girls faced evil invaders with turbants? Would be it too offensive? And who is who can dictate when anything is too offensive or not too much? Where is the coherence?

 

[Lanefan]

We're waiting for the Lawful Neutrals to organize it.

Excuse me, you will need to fill out these permits before you can move your Chaotic Neutrals anywhere. Pushes a wheelbarrow filled to the brim with several large stacks of paperwork. Fresh from Mechanus.

As we charge forward in a disorganized mass, someone accidentally-on-purpose knocks the wheelbarrow over when it's next to a puddle....

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

One big problem all people have is not having a realistic idea of intent and purpose when a business sends signals.

Is that a big problem for all people? That feels like a "who gives a crap" issue to me, and I suspect others.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Right. And it is possible to switch to a less heteronormative approach by changing background characters and setting assumptions without changing the scope of the game from high fantasy adventure to cozy romance.

They haven't changed the focus of the game to cozy romance.

We've already gotten their first 2024 5E* adventure book. Dragon Delves has zero cozy romances and, other than maybe the fairy tale adventure, it's all high fantasy.

The presence of gay people in the art is not a fundamental change to the game.

* We've got to come up with a better way to describe this edition; it's going to be insane when we're talking about the "2026 2025 releases" when comparing them to the 2015 2014 releases, etc.

 

[Scribe]

* We've got to come up with a better way to describe this edition; it's going to be insane when we're talking about the "2026 2025 releases" when comparing them to the 2015 2014 releases, etc.

It's 5.5, I don't know why anyone resists it.

 

[DrJawaPhD]

Yeah, this is my only issue with this product. Who uses playmats for D&D? If you’re worried about metal dice scratching the table you buy a dice tray or tower.

Cute product. I have nothing against it existing for those that want it. I just have no use for it.

I would assume it's intended to be used for playing Magic the Gathering, but for people who want to show off their interest in DnD.

MTG has 6 different creature cards of the Beholder type (including Xanathar), and 17 different creature cards of the Tiefling type, so there is significant overlap between DnD and MTG

 

[DrJawaPhD]

I don't like the tielflings being "promoted" while the noble-hearted aasimars have been relatively isolated or forgotten.

How have Aasimar been isolated and forgotten? They got bumped up to being a core species in the PHB

They still don't seem to be very popular among players, but you can't call them forgotten. When you open up the PHB they are literally the first one listed (because alphabetical, but still they're right there cannot possibly miss them)

 

[Zardnaar]

How have Aasimar been isolated and forgotten? They got bumped up to being a core species in the PHB

They still don't seem to be very popular among players, but you can't call them forgotten. When you open up the PHB they are literally the first one listed (because alphabetical, but still they're right there cannot possibly miss them)

They're edgy like drow were.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Miss Marvel/Kamala Khan was created to be a "positive token". Nobody can guess when I remember she is from Pakistan.

No she isn't. She's from New Jersey. She's an American.

Her family is from Pakistan. She was created by a Muslim-American and a Filipino-Canadian - not to be a "token" anything, but to represent someone that wasn't represented in comics.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I don't like the tielflings being "promoted" while the noble-hearted aasimars have been relatively isolated or forgotten.

Then your beef is with players, not the publishers. It was the players who popularised tieflings immediately they appeared as a Planescape-specific option. The publisher was slow to respond, and it took the best part of a decade and the company changing hands before they were accepted as a core option. WotC have long being trying to push Aasimars, but the players aint buying, even when they made them very overpowered. People who play D&D like edgy characters, not square dudley-dorights. The only way to popularise aasimar is to make them dark and edgy.