D&D General Using Paladin and Warlock to Remake Bard (+)

[zakael19]

I didn't have any interest in ToV, but maybe I should check it out.

You could check the Black Flag SRD out to see their take on the class to pilfer from! It’s not quite what you want, but I think it’s closer then the 5/5.5 Bard (generally true of their classes imo).

 

[doctorbadwolf]

You could check the Black Flag SRD out to see their take on the class to pilfer from! It’s not quite what you want, but I think it’s closer then the 5/5.5 Bard (generally true of their classes imo).

I usually love KP work in the broad strokes and find the final execution frustrating. Like i got their big spells book and felt like over half of it was very obviously poorly balanced, often because a spell was just "5e spell but less broadly applicable with no increase in power or decrease in cost" or because a spell just did something that seemed a level or two too weak for the spell level it was at.

That being said, their concepts are absolutely killer.

 

[Smackpixi]

I like the thinking for sure. But why needle around the edges, bards should not have any spell per class (some from subclass maybe) they should have songs, some instant, some that take two rounds to manifest, and they should be bonus actions.