D&D 5E Could a Sorcerer with a 1 Wizard dip fulfill everything unique about a wizard?
Asisreo
Patron Badass
But they can prepare any level spell as long as they have the spell slot for them, can they not?
Let me run it down real quick:
You're a 7th level sorcerer and have spell slots up to 1 4th-level slot. You know the usual 8 spells.
You level up and dip into Wizard, obtaining a spellbook. You can prepare wizard spells that are of a level of which you have spell slots.
Combine your spell slots, you have spell slots up to 2 4th-level slots.
Your spellbook is not bound by the spells you can know as the appropriate wizard. It is only bound by the spells you can prepare. But that is only bound by your spell slots, not your wizard level. There is nothing separating wizard spell slots from sorcerer spell slots. They are the same resource.
Flamestrike
Legend
No.
Because of the rules on PG 164 of the PHB (multiclassing) that I have already shown you, this character can only prepare spells as if he was a 1st level wizard (Int + 1 x 1st level spells) and he can only scribe spells into his spellbook that he can prepare as a Wizard (so only 1st level spells in his book).
Flamestrike
Legend
No, it's not. Its bound by your Wizard level thanks to the rules for Multiclassing on Page 164 of the PHB.
Asisreo
Patron Badass
That section tells you to determine what you know as if you have a single level in that class. But that only refers back to the wizard's class feature, which, even at level 1, still has more than 1st level spell slots because of the multiclass.
Flamestrike
Legend
No it doesnt. The rules for MC PCs with the Spellcasting feature states this:
Spells Known and Prepared. You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class.
So a Sorcerer 8, Wizard 1, prepares spells as if he was a 1st level Wizard (i.e. 1+Int mod of spells prepared, of no higher than 1st level)
The Spellbook class feature then expressly prohibits you adding spells to it you can not prepare:
Copying a Spell into the Book. When you find a wizard spell of 1st level or higher, you can add it to your spellbook if it is of a spell level you can prepare and if you can spare the time to decipher and copy it.
A Sorcerer 8/ Wizard 1 cannot prepare spells higher than 1st level (due to the MCing rulesstopping him from preparing anything other than 1st level spells) so he also cant scribe them into his spellbook.
jgsugden
Legend
As a side note: You may want to consider party composition before going ritual heavy. If there is another PC that already has access, it ends up being a waste. I saw a PC heavily invest in ritual capabilities with their PC - and when another player joined the group, that player decided to play a wizard. Suddenly, that heavy investment in rituals was redundant.
Asisreo
Patron Badass
I don't think you're following what I'm saying.
You can prepare any spell as a wizard so long as you have the spell slot, yes? The wizard's class feature only references the spell slots the wizard as a character has.
If you're a 1st level wizard that just so happens to have a 2nd-level slot, does the writing not permit the wizard, in this theoretical scenario, to be able to prepare a 2nd-level spell so long as its in his book?
The same should occur with a wizard multiclassed, right?
I get what you're saying. That a 1st-level wizard has no access to 2nd level slots so they cannot prepare it as a single class. But that's incidental to their spell slot as a single caster but the prepared spell slot list is not explicitly connected to the class feature.
Musing Mage
Pondering D&D stuff
No, that's exactly the point. They can only prepare as if they were single classed, and since a single classed wizard at 1st level cannot prepare anything other than first level spells, being multiclassed and having the 2nd level spell slot doesn't alter that fact. You can, at best, upcast your first level options with the 2nd level slot.
Think of it in layman's terms, removing the 'mechanics' of the game.
You're a sorcerer, you've always had these powers and never had to think about how they worked, they just did. After a few years you decide you want to learn what makes your powers tick, so you study magic with wizards. Some of the early magic you mastered becomes clear to you, the core concepts of shooting magic missiles makes sense now, and you are able to write it out into your magic tome.
But even though you still know how to summon a fireball with your innate talent, your understanding of that magic has not manifested. You don't comprehend how that particular magic works because your knowledge of the more complex arcane triggers is beyond your understanding... so even though you can instinctively conjure a fireball, you don't have the understanding to copy out the knowledge into your arcane tome.
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