Dragonlance DRAGONLANCE LIVES! Unearthed Arcana Explores Heroes of Krynn!

humble minion · Mar 14, 2022

Hussar said:
This is not true. Here is the stats for the Heroes of the Lance:

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Caramon, and Riverwind both had percentile strengths. Raistin had an average Constitution. And whoever said that Druids don't exist in Krynn really had no idea what they were talking about.

I kinda love this because of how badly optimised they all are. Alhana is a Str 9 fighter. Goldmoon is a cleric with a higher Charisma than Wisdom. Riverwind has a huge Str score but mostly (IIRC) uses a shortbow. And because this is before finesse weapons made Dex the uber combat stat, Tanis has good but not stratospheric Dex and Str but still manages to be very competent.

Mind you, Tika is listed as wearing plate armour but in her picture is wearing a low-cut blouse, because some cliches became cliches because they were true all the time. Tika and Alhana's 80s big hair is pretty hilarious though. Was there hairspray in Krynn?

FitzTheRuke · Mar 14, 2022

I've always liked Kender, and I'm very happy with these changes. They will basically play the same, but without such a hard push to be annoying (problem players aside, that's its own problem).

FitzTheRuke · Mar 14, 2022

humble minion said:
I kinda love this because of how badly optimised they all are. Alhana is a Str 9 fighter. Goldmoon is a cleric with a higher Charisma than Wisdom. Riverwind has a huge Str score but mostly (IIRC) uses a shortbow. And because this is before finesse weapons made Dex the uber combat stat, Tanis has good but not stratospheric Dex and Str but still manages to be very competent.

Mind you, Tika is listed as wearing plate armour but in her picture is wearing a low-cut blouse, because some cliches became cliches because they were true all the time...

One of my favorite characters had a high-stat of 13. IIRC he also had a 6. I rebuilt him once in 4e, and it felt very strange to put an 18 and an 8 in their place...

Micah Sweet · Mar 14, 2022

James Gasik said:
D&D has always muddled the difference between culture and biology, and the current era's attempt to separate the two is amusing, since it's often based on rather flimsy justification.

For example, in AD&D Elves are bad at opening locks. Why? "Elves don't use locks".

So as a culture, Elves don't believe in locking up anything? And despite the fact everyone else does, Elves are like "oh I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with such silly things as locking up dangerous magic items so the children can't get at them". Amusing.

Or you get things like Halflings throwing rocks good. Either because it's a popular pastime (culture) or they have good hand-eye coordination (biology)?

At the end of the day, it comes down to what the designer of the game thinks. If they think dwarves are greedy and love gems, then that's what they do. You can say it's a cultural thing, but it could just as easily be a divine curse, or Dwarves are just attracted to shiny things like some birds are.

We've just been informed that it can't be a divine curse anymore (not that that particular example ever was).

James Gasik · Mar 14, 2022

Tika's armor is specifically piecemeal, scavenged from bits she finds on the battlefield. Attached is how Larry Elmore drew it. The missing leg armor isn't great, but I've seen worse.

EDIT: I didn't say it was, just that it could be. But why couldn't it be, again?

Umbran · Mar 15, 2022

Stefano Rinaldelli said:
Logic have rules. Sorry. Jump to Romani from Kender is wrong. It is not an opinion, is a fact.

Mod Note:
With regret, we must inform you that, no, it isn't about fact - it is about symbolism, which is about interpretation.

The question isn't whether it is fact, but whether a reasonable person could come to the conclusion. And, your repeated and vehement disissal of that means you are not treating your fellow posters as reasonable people.

Which means your time for discussion of this topic is at an end. In the future, leave room for the idea that you don't have a corner on absolute truth on a topic.

Minigiant · Mar 15, 2022

Every page just confirms the fact that D&D needs to invest and promote setting that match the current mechanics, current promotion, and current mix of old and new fans.

Dragonlance is nice and dandy. But it will come with issues and arguments.

Maybe it's time for Dragon... Drake.... Drakesword?

Micah Sweet · Mar 15, 2022

Minigiant said:
Every page just confirms the fact that D&D needs to invest and promote setting that match the current mechanics, current promotion, and current mix of old and new fans.

Dragonlance is nice and dandy. But it will come with issues and arguments.

Maybe it's time for Dragon... Drake.... Drakesword?

I've been saying that for a while, but I keep being told it's unnecessary, and those who don't like it apparently just need to suck it up.

James Gasik · Mar 15, 2022

Nostalgia is a powerful force! Surely you've heard the battle cry of the Nerd: "They changed it, now it sucks!"

Micah Sweet · Mar 15, 2022

James Gasik said:
Nostalgia is a powerful force! Surely you've heard the battle cry of the Nerd: "They changed it, now it sucks!"

Sometimes change does suck. It certainly isn't automatically good.

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