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James Gasik

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It's worth noting that a movie becoming a flop is not unrelated to its quality, since word of mouth from people who actually watch the movie is a big driver of ticket sales.

Different people will have different points of view and different preferences for what they want from the movie-going experience.

No movie will ever please everyone, but the ones that hit enough buttons to reach critical mass with audiences tend to be objectively better overall.

In the modern era of media, people can just wait for movies to show up on their streaming services now, so movie productions need to do better, hire better people, learn from past mistakes, etc. --- it's a good thing for the movie-goer if a movie that isn't up to par for its budget tier flops at the box office since that'll hopefully pressure studio execs to hire based on actual skill and talent over favors and political agendas.
However, by the same token, there are a lot of "cult classics" that did terribly in the box office, but have since become highly acclaimed in their own right.
 

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It's worth noting that a movie becoming a flop is not unrelated to its quality, since word of mouth from people who actually watch the movie is a big driver of ticket sales.

Different people will have different points of view and different preferences for what they want from the movie-going experience.

No movie will ever please everyone, but the ones that hit enough buttons to reach critical mass with audiences tend to be objectively better overall.

In the modern era of media, people can just wait for movies to show up on their streaming services now, so movie productions need to do better, hire better people, learn from past mistakes, etc. --- it's a good thing for the movie-goer if a movie that isn't up to par for its budget tier flops at the box office since that'll hopefully pressure studio execs to hire based on actual skill and talent over favors and political agendas.

I wish I agreed, because that would mean box office numbers (or ratings, or whatever else indicates financial success) are the result of a meritocracy, and that word of mouth is as powerful as we'd like it to be. But in the same year that Blade Runner 2049 flopped, the live-action Beauty and the Beast made half a billion dollars in the U.S. alone. Whatever one thinks about BR2049, at least it still gets discussed, and audiences are still reevaluating it. Meanwhile, the live action Beauty and the Beast was a cultural fart in the wind. I keep forgetting it ever happened.

That same year there was a massive word-of-mouth success story: Get Out. But that movie was lightning in a bottle, that no one predicted, and its $176M made it a smash success no matter how low its budget was. Meanwhile, word of mouth and critical acclaim didn't pull Atomic Blonde or Lady Bird or tons of other well-received movies to anywhere near the same dizzying heights as Get Out. Are those movies worse than the better-performing Sully or Daddy's Home 2, or even less-talked-about at the time?

I don't think so, but it's all subjective, if you want it to be.
 


James Gasik

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Objectively terrible if you're a "true fan". Entertaining if you're a "normal fan". Very entertaining if you're a "mild fan" or "someone who went to see it because it's part 7-9 so it must be good".

Doesn't matter how good or bad it was, it still made Disney money. Just...not all the money, which is the only metric for success in corporate land.
 




James Gasik

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I don't know, how could it be better than Caravan of Courage?
 

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