“AI” and education…

Reynard

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When exactly are the benefits going to arrive?

How exactly is this not the same scam as crypto-currencies, NFTs, etc.? Especially when it's the same exact people involved in all three of those?

Right now AI research involves mass theft of intellectual property and it's resulted in a proliferation of cheating tools, disinformation (both active like the above example and how it's massively increased the amount of fake news/images/videos that can be put out), and filling up the internet with endless word vomit that it then proceeds to devour to make more.
It is clear from your post that you haven't made any effort to understand the various kinds of technology referred to under the "AI" label, and are happy to believe the worst interpretations of the technology. I don't know what to tell you other than maybe actually look at what "AI" is and the potential benefits and risks that lots of really smart people are talking about all the time in very accessible venues.

If you need an example, Google "AI discovers new medicine."
 

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Reynard

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I'm not sure there's a definition of "dismissively shouting down any example of AI causing issues" that doesn't encompass "ignoring issues".
What is mostly ignored around here are the significance and real positives, along with any nuance in discussing AI.

But, hey, who am I to tell you how to feel about the future? It is coming either way, so I'll leave you to enjoy your railing against the inevitable.
 

bloodtide

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Well, the thing is AI is just a reflection of the world we made....and accept...and promote...and continue.

Something like 75% of everything most people know is wrong, incomplete, out of context, or many worse things.

Maybe half of this is just by mistake or other innocent reasons. But the other half is by malicious intent.

Add on that most people 'learn' things from TV shows and movies. And that everything has a 'spin' to it.

And you'd just confuse people with facts like: Seven companies own all the information media. One decision is made and every book, magazine, article, Tv show, movie, broadcast, podcast, and everything else must follow that decision. That is how "ownership" works. And, gee, should all seven companies agree on the same thing...well, that covers everything.

Oh, and the AI is owned too.....
 

MarkB

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What is mostly ignored around here are the significance and real positives, along with any nuance in discussing AI.
Ooh, good, another thread about how AI is scary and bad and has no upside.
Yeah, that opening comment wasn't exactly replete with nuance.
But, hey, who am I to tell you how to feel about the future? It is coming either way, so I'll leave you to enjoy your railing against the inevitable.
Again, pointing out problems is not railing against the inevitable. And dismissing those concerns outright is not speaking with nuance.
 

Cadence

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As an elementary school teacher, AI (or whatever you want to call it) seems to be sneaking in from every direction. For example, our school uses Chromebooks (which started to become popular during the pandemic and then exploded in student use during the pandemic). This means the students primarily type essays, stories, and reports on Google Docs. This last year, Google Docs started suggesting the next word or phrases it thinks you want to type.

What this means is that I'm having to actively teach my students how to ignore or turn off the feature so that they can learn how to develop their own thoughts.

What's annoying (and a little scary) about it is that Google made a big push to provide schools with Chromebooks. But there's no communication about how they're implementing AI (or other software) on Google Docs and other programs that kids frequently use. As teachers, we're having to be reactive about AI instead of proactive.

The number of things on Chromebooks or browsers that make them hard to use in the classroom the way a teacher would want always surprises me.

Apparently some online test security software notices if you ask chrome to translate something ... but not if you have a plugin to do it. :-/

Things that have come out the last year or two have certainly changed what I put on take home vs. in class exams, or if I even give the take homes.

The one that might get me most are teachers who reuse exams and don't realize how many aggregation sites students upload the old ones to to study from.
 


Cadence

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My son showed me a few years ago when he was in grade 12, you can just google the questions on homework, someone has uploaded it complete already.

Using questions from popular textbooks gets you the popular answers. :-/

I like giving points for homework to give students the little extra incentive to try. But since the answers are out there I wonder if it just punishes students who try and thus get some wrong (vs looking them up). I am trying to shift more to ungraded practice problems.
 


Scribe

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Using questions from popular textbooks gets you the popular answers. :-/

I like giving points for homework to give students the little extra incentive to try. But since the answers are out there I wonder if it just punishes students who try and thus get some wrong (vs looking them up). I am trying to shift more to ungraded practice problems.

Yeah I dont know what the solution is at this point. Kids that want to learn, I assume would put in the effort, kids that want to just get it all over with dont, and then hit reality and go 'wait...what is this'.
 

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