D&D 5E 2020 Release Speculation Thread

Mercurius

Legend
Rather than guess the next year, I'll cop-out and guess through 2022, so the next two and a half years.

So we've had Wildemount and will have Theros in a few months. The next ten books, in some order, will be:


  • Story Arc 1 (Underdark/aberrations/illithid/drow)
  • Story Arc 2 (possibly Dalelands/Myth Drannor-themed)
  • Story Arc 3 (tied to Planes and/or epic level)
  • Adventure compilation (Tales 2 - possibly Dalelands-themed)
  • Manual of the Planes/Planescape
  • Another Magic setting book (Zendikar or Dominaria would be my guess, but possibly Kaladesh, Innistrad, Ixalan, etc)
  • Xanathar 2 (so to speak, possibly with psionics and/or epic)
  • Dark Sun (But not a straight up setting, more of an "adventures in the Tyr Region")
  • Monster book (next in Volo's/Mordenkainen's line)
  • Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting
 
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Yesterday I saw a possible "teaser" about spiders. I guess we could see a story arc about the spider queen, Lolth, and the drows.

Maybe a "Xanxost's guide of the planes". I would like the return of the mechanatrixes, a planetouched race from Mechanus (Fiend Folio 3rd).

We will see a Fiend Folio, but it will be more a compilation of monsters published in other books.

DS will be published after the psionic powers, and the metaplot will be frozen until to produce some media title, maybe a movie, a cartoon or a serie in Netflix.

Maybe in 2021 we will see a Heroes of Horror and a compilation of modules about the grand conjuction in Ravenloft.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Story Arc 1 (Underdark/aberrations/illithid/drow)
I'm not expecting an Underdark themed adventure. We already have Out of the Abyss. I do want another, but I do not think we'll get another for a long time.
Story Arc 2 (possibly Dalelands/Myth Drannor-themed)
I also don't see a Dalelands or Myth Drannor book coming out anytime soon. I really do think the next book will be a Neverwinter adventure, possibly aberration themed.
Story Arc 3 (tied to Planes and/or epic level)
I don't think it'll be a story arc connected to the planes, but I could see an adventure compilation with planescape adventures.
Adventure compilation (Tales 2 - possibly Dalelands-themed)
Again, I don't think we're getting a dalelands book anytime soon, but an adventure compilation seems possible for the first release of 2021. My guess would be either desert themed adventures or horror adventures. I'd love an Underdark themed adventure compilation, but I don't think it's likely.
Manual of the Planes/Planescape
Xanathar 2 (so to speak, possibly with psionics and/or epic)
So, I think these two books are likely to be one and the same. I don't think that psionics will be included in this book, I believe it'll be reserved for the Dark Sun book, but I do agree that a Xanathar's 2.0 and a Planescape manual are coming out soon.
Dark Sun (But not a straight up setting, more of an "adventures in the Tyr Region")
I also disagree with this. I think if there's a Dark Sun book coming out it'll be a full setting book akin to Eberron: Rising from the Last War and will include psionic options and hopefully a psionic class. It'll also include Mul, Thri-Kreen, and possibly goliaths.
Monster book (next in Volo's/Mordenkainen's line)
This book will probably come out in the next couple years. It'll probably contain more races/subraces, as Volo's and Mordenkainen's did, but probably not many. I have no idea what the theme of the book would be, but I'd love more Archfey and Archfiends.
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting
I don't know if/when this would come out, but I want it to come out sometime.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
So, I think these two books are likely to be one and the same. I don't think that psionics will be included in this book, I believe it'll be reserved for the Dark Sun book, but I do agree that a Xanathar's 2.0 and a Planescape manual are coming out soon.

I think you are right they would be one and the same. Keep in mind, in regards to Psionics, that the Gith are one of the main Planescape Race options traditionally. Reprinting the Gith Race rules, with some Psionic Feats and Subclasses...just makes sense.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
I think you are right they would be one and the same. Keep in mind, in regards to Psionics, that the Gith are one of the main Planescape Race options traditionally. Reprinting the Gith Race rules, with some Psionic Feats and Subclasses...just makes sense.
I agree that Gith seem like they'd be likely to be printed with psionic options, but I think it's a lot more likely for Psionic options to be printed in a Dark Sun book. Also, I think Dark Sun is the most likely of the older campaign settings to be reprinted.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
I agree that Gith seem like they'd be likely to be printed with psionic options, but I think it's a lot more likely for Psionic options to be printed in a Dark Sun book. Also, I think Dark Sun is the most likely of the older campaign settings to be reprinted.

It doesn't have to be one or the other: the two most recent books share reprints with each other (Orc & Goblinoid PC rules).
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
It doesn't have to be one or the other: the two most recent books share reprints with each other (Orc & Goblinoid PC rules).
Normally the reprints are just races, but I could see it happening if there is no psionic class coming out. If they're planning on making a psionic class, then they could feasibly reprint 3-4 subclasses in the Dark Sun book.
 

Dark Sun is a very very long way off. Before they even start to plan a Dark Sun setting book the need to sort out the psionics issue, and given that the current UA is unlikely to make the required 70% approval rate, that's not happening any time soon.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Dark Sun is a very very long way off. Before they even start to plan a Dark Sun setting book the need to sort out the psionics issue, and given that the current UA is unlikely to make the required 70% approval rate, that's not happening any time soon.

I wouldn't bet either against or for the recent material: it could go either way. Doubt that it is currently being considered for an upcoming Dark Sun book, but would fit other products that they might be cooking up.
 

DS will come back, because WotC know it's too good and original to be forgotten. And even it will be adapted into a videogame in the next phase (why not a farm simulation or a stronghold managment?).

We don't know. Maybe the have hired writters to publish new novels to continue the metaplot, and later when there is a project for a future media production the scripters have got their own ideas about what new things to add or some retcon as neccesary.

Ravenloft is perfect for adult people who isn't intered about dungeon-crawling and slaying dragons but more about hunting the monster of the week or investigating crimes. And with a XIX century visual look easier to be adapted to an action-live production.

* I guess most of new tittles will be not 100% original, but remakes or other new adaptation of a M:tG setting.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Dark Sun is a very very long way off. Before they even start to plan a Dark Sun setting book the need to sort out the psionics issue, and given that the current UA is unlikely to make the required 70% approval rate, that's not happening any time soon.
I'd argue that the fact that they're doing these psioinic options show that they're trying to bring it back, and allow them to bring back Dark Sun. That's what they did with the Artificer, they didn't bring back Eberron until they had a working Artificer class. They're testing out a new Psionics system in recent Unearthed Arcana, so that makes me suspect that they want to bring Dark Sun back. Dark Sun is an old setting that if brought to 5e would bring something new to the edition. Here are some examples of old settings:
  • Dragonlance, doesn't bring anything new that can't already be represented with the current ruleset.
  • Greyhawk, again doesn't bring anything new that needs a new book for.
  • Mystara, doesn't bring much that is new, certainly not enough to fill a book with besides setting lore.
  • Planescape, not much mechanical differences through the editions, we would need a book filled with more information on the planes and maps.
  • Spelljammer, would need a whole book and overhaul of how it works to work in 5e. Eberron, Wildemount, Ravnica, Theros, none of those settings have crystal spheres, so if they'd want to include those settings in Spelljammer, there'd have to be a massive overhaul.
There aren't many things popular settings from older editions have that can't easily be brought to 5e. Most of them that do need books to replicate them in 5e (spelljammer, planescape, dark sun) already have some information on how to work and just need some revisions to be brought properly to this edition.
 

I'd argue that the fact that they're doing these psioinic options show that they're trying to bring it back, and allow them to bring back Dark Sun.
Sure. But that's what makes it a long process. If (which I think is unlikely) the UA Psionics is accepted, then we might see it in a book at the tail end of 2020. But they will only just be starting on Dark Sun, which would take about two years, starting from now. So 2022.

If, in the far more likely scenario that substantial parts of the psionic UA fail to meet the 70% approval threshold, then work cannot begin on Dark Sun. It was three years between attempts at psionics, so, another three years, plus two years to make the book = Dark Sun in 2025 (which probably pushes it well into 6th edition).
 

dave2008

Legend
If, in the far more likely scenario that substantial parts of the psionic UA fail to meet the 70% approval threshold, then work cannot begin on Dark Sun.
I don't think we know that and I think it is unlikely to be true. It is not like they waited to get the artificer right before they started work on Eberron. They could easily work on DS without have psionics completely figured out. They just coudn't publish it (from what I am told at least).
 
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AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Sure. But that's what makes it a long process. If (which I think is unlikely) the UA Psionics is accepted, then we might see it in a book at the tail end of 2020. But they will only just be starting on Dark Sun, which would take about two years, starting from now. So 2022.

If, in the far more likely scenario that substantial parts of the psionic UA fail to meet the 70% approval threshold, then work cannot begin on Dark Sun. It was three years between attempts at psionics, so, another three years, plus two years to make the book = Dark Sun in 2025 (which probably pushes it well into 6th edition).
I find it very unlikely that they would wait writing the book until they had a psionic option ready to be plopped in it. They can very easily design the races and monsters that will be put in the book, create the Gazetteer and world information, and complete 95% of the book, then they could create psionic subclasses (possibly class) to put inside it at the same time that they write the other information. Why would they wait until the Psionic UA is approved to move on with all of the rest of the book?

It makes much more sense to start the book while you playtest Psionic UA, and when you're done with both, just put them together to complete the book. I'd say we'll see a Dark Sun book in the next 3 years, probably earlier than that. I would not be surprised if it was released in November of 2021.
 

Why would they wait until the Psionic UA is approved to move on with all of the rest of the book?
Because they have to allow for the possibility of it being rejected. And if it is rejected they can't move forward with Dark Sun. You don't invest time in a project until you are certain you are going to be able to move forward with it.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Because they have to allow for the possibility of it being rejected. And if it is rejected they can't move forward with Dark Sun. You don't invest time in a project until you are certain you are going to be able to move forward with it.
I think that they're sure about moving forward with it. It is the easiest old D&D setting that has new content and themes. I think that they'll keep playtesting psioinics until they get it right, instead of abandoning it. If they actually want to make a Dark Sun book, they wouldn't wait to write the book until they had the mechanics 100% down. They didn't wait to write Eberron: Rising from the Last War until they had the Artificer 100% of the way completed.
 

Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
I think that they're sure about moving forward with it. It is the easiest old D&D setting that has new content and themes. I think that they'll keep playtesting psioinics until they get it right, instead of abandoning it. If they actually want to make a Dark Sun book, they wouldn't wait to write the book until they had the mechanics 100% down. They didn't wait to write Eberron: Rising from the Last War until they had the Artificer 100% of the way completed.

We don't actually know what 100% down looks like... for example, the Theros material got one UA before publishing, and the Leonine/Satyr races didn't get any UA material. For all we know, the last psionics hit the metric WotC is happy with and they're now fast-tracking whatever it is going into (DS or PS).
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
We don't actually know what 100% down looks like... for example, the Theros material got one UA before publishing, and the Leonine/Satyr races didn't get any UA material. For all we know, the last psionics hit the metric WotC is happy with and they're now fast-tracking whatever it is going into (DS or PS).

Well, they did a whole series aimed at Theros, just one set made it in he final product.

They seem to be more comfortable now with putting in some stuff they didn't generally playtest, so far for licensed Settings that need certain things...
 


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