"2nd party" sources

[klofft]

Hello all.

I'm trying to find what other companies released books during the 3rd edition that had the official D&D logo on them. I know of Dragonlance, Kingdoms of Kalamar, and Warcraft. Were there more? I'm trying to hunt them all down.

Thanks in advance!
C

 

[Crothian]

Was Ravenloft one? I don't remember.

 

[Alzrius]

I don't believe the Ravenloft books from Arthaus actually had the D&D logo on them.

 

[freyar]

Paizo seems like the obvious one you're missing. I can't say for certain about Shackled City Hardcover or Dragon Compendium, but I'm sitting here looking at an official D&D logo on Dragon Monster Ecologies. (Not to mention the magazines...)

 

[Voadam]

AEG had the official WotC Oriental Adventures logo licensed for its d20 Rokugan products.

White Wolf/Arthaus' Ravenloft line had the WotC Ravenloft logo but not the D&D logo.

 

[Voadam]

I believe Gamma World was a non D&D WotC license to White Wolf as well.

 

[klofft]

Thanks for the quick responses. I omitted Paizo, as they were sort of a "given." If anyone knows of any others, I'd love to know.

Different question: on the KoK books with the logo, did any of them have any rules crunch to them, or were they all pure setting material?

 

[The Lost Muse]

The Player's Guide (Marked Core Rulebook IV I believe) was mostly crunch. I can't speculate on the rest of the line.

 

[Echohawk]

I'm trying to find what other companies released books during the 3rd edition that had the official D&D logo on them. I know of Dragonlance, Kingdoms of Kalamar, and Warcraft. Were there more? I'm trying to hunt them all down.

Many of these have already been mentioned, but here is a (not quite complete) list of licenced D&D products released in the 3rd edition era:

• Alderac Entertainment: Published twenty-odd Rokugan products with the Oriental Adventures logo, but no D&D logo.
• Atari: Published the various Neverwinter Nights games and expansions, as well as some other PC titles and a smattering of console titles. I'm not sure if any have the D&D logo, but at least some of the NWN titles carry the Forgotten Realms logo.
• BCI Eclipse: Released the Dungeons & Dragons: The Complete Animated Series boxed set. This has a booklet with some 3rd Edition stats in it and also has an official D&D logo, although it is admittedly a very old version of the logo .
• Devil's Due Productions: Have an ongoing licence to publish comics set in D&D worlds. These have the Dragonlance or Forgotten Realms logos on, but not a D&D logo, as far as I know.
• Entity Productions: Released the Official Roleplaying Soundtrack sound-track by Midnight Syndicate (in 2003). This does have the D&D logo on, but obviously isn't specifically 3rd edition (nor a book).
• Iron Hammer Graphics: Published Vecna: Hand of the Revenant which has the D&D logo on, but is a graphic novel and thus not 3rd Edition specific.
• John Wiley & Sons: Published Dungeons & Dragons for Dummies and Dungeon Master for Dummies, both for 3rd Edition.
• Kenzer & Company: Published a number of D&D related products, including: (i) the Kingdoms of Kalamar line, which are 3rd edition, and carry the D&D logo (although the logo was dropped from the line in 2005); (ii) the Knights of the Dinner Table magazine/comic which has carried some content with an official D&D logo from time to time; and (iii) A line of comics nominally set in Greyhawk. These did carry the D&D logo, and at least one of them also contained a 3rd edition stat block.
• Paizo Publishing: Were responsible for issues 298-359 of Dragon and 94-150 of Dungeon, as well as Shackled City Adventure Path, Dragon Compendium, Volume 1, Art of Dragon Magazine and Dragon: Monster Ecologies.
• Paradigm Concepts: Published one book for the Rokugan line which carried the Oriental Adventures logo.
• Rhino Theatrical: Published the Scourge of Worlds interactive DVD adventure. This carries the D&D logo, but isn't specifically 3rd edition. It does feature Lidda and some of the other iconics though.
• Sovereign Press/Margaret Weis Productions: Published the considerable Dragonlance series of 3rd edition accessories. These carry the Dragonlance logo, but not the D&D logo, except for the main campaign setting book, which was published by WotC.
• Sword & Sorcery/White Wolf/Arthaus: Published the extensive 3rd edition Ravenloft line; these carry the Ravenloft logo, but not the D&D logo. WW also published the Warcraft line, but only the first title in that line carried the a D&D logo.

To answer your later question, the Kingdoms of Kalamar books have from "some" to "quite a lot" of rules crunch in them, with a few exceptions, like the Atlas. The rules crunch is mostly setting-related, but those books also contain the only official 3rd edition D&D versions of a handful of 1st and 2nd edition creatures (such as the piercer!).

 

[klofft]

Thanks for that hugely comprehensive list! My goal was largely to collect crunch. I have decided to forego the Rokugan material. I will finish collecting the Warcraft stuff, though I will skip the World of Warcraft stuff (though I hear it is of superior quality overall). I have also decided to bite the bullet and get the Kalamar material (I was a little shocked to find out how much of it there was!). From what I've read, I doubt Kalamar is my kind of setting, and I hear that the writing is not always that scintillating for someone not using the setting, but I'll get it for the crunch.

My crunch goal is to finish my comprehensive spreadsheet of feats, PrCs, races, classes, spells, etc. for 3.5, using only 1st and 2nd party sources (no 3rd party material at all, though I do own some stuff). Not an original concept, I understand, but one important to my kitchen sink homebrew and essential to my OCD mindset!