4e Change of mind
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ppaladin123
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I was tired of 3.5 and had high hopes for 4e. I loved the previews ("all the stuff you liked from Tome of Battle!") and eagerly bought up the core books. I still play it, I still like it a lot but the "new car smell" has washed away and its "flaws" (i.e. things that don't fit my group's playstyle) are now apparent. This is ok though....we can house rule it to suit our tastes.
I suppose my love for 4e has entered a new phase. I am no longer infatuated with it....I now love it despite its flaws...I see its potential for greatness even when it stumbles...I think that is a healthy, mature love. Overall 4e is the best edition of D&D for me.
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p.s. Don't tell 4e but sometimes I think fondly about my old flame 3.5e. I'd never go back but...well, we had some good times.
I suppose my love for 4e has entered a new phase. I am no longer infatuated with it....I now love it despite its flaws...I see its potential for greatness even when it stumbles...I think that is a healthy, mature love. Overall 4e is the best edition of D&D for me.
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p.s. Don't tell 4e but sometimes I think fondly about my old flame 3.5e. I'd never go back but...well, we had some good times.
Siberys
Adventurer
please PLEASE PLEASE don't necro that thread. I'm still trying to burn some of the images out of my brain with acid...p.s. Don't tell 4e but sometimes I think fondly about my old flame 3.5e. I'd never go back but...well, we had some good times.
ahem... Being that I like fiddling with the rules, I was curious, if not enthused, to begin with. At first I was rankling from the cancellation of Dungeon and Dragon, but as time wore on, I liked what I was hearing more and more. It seemed they had taken my 3.x house-rule ideas, streamlined them, and presented them professionally. I've only really ever played 3.x & 4e D&D (though I've tried 1 & 2e...), so that may skew my perception, but I love this game (figuratively, of course.
).The only thing I miss from 3.x (other than fluff - that's editionless) is Elements of Magic. I'd like to see a point-based power creation system that has basic guidelines for designing powers similar to that; I'd also like to see a 4e ritual-system similar to the noncombat effects of EoM.
Damn it, now I've a pet project...
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
Man, there's nothing that truly reflects my position in the poll.
I was undecided about 4e at first, mostly trying to give it a chance to prove itself. There were a few things I was pretty critical of, but not having given it a fair shake, it was all contingent.
After having given it a fair shake, I can say that it doesn't mesh well with my style of game -- not as good as 3e did, anyway. From what I can tell, the core of this is that 4e decided that combat was the only fun part of D&D. I like combat -- I want a lot of combat -- but I also want a lot of other things, and 4e doesn't yet have enough support for those other things.
I was undecided about 4e at first, mostly trying to give it a chance to prove itself. There were a few things I was pretty critical of, but not having given it a fair shake, it was all contingent.
After having given it a fair shake, I can say that it doesn't mesh well with my style of game -- not as good as 3e did, anyway. From what I can tell, the core of this is that 4e decided that combat was the only fun part of D&D. I like combat -- I want a lot of combat -- but I also want a lot of other things, and 4e doesn't yet have enough support for those other things.
Heh. A bit like me & 3e.
I was hugely excited about 3e. When I first read the books, I thought: “This is the D&D I would’ve designed.” Yet, in practice, I struggled with it. I wasn’t really happy with it. Which lead me to exploring a lot of other systems, reëxploring a lot of systems, and eventually developing a new appreciation for the older editions.
I now see 3e as a different yet worthy system that I enjoy when someone else is running, but which isn’t my preference.
4e? At first I was excited. I already saw 3e as a different game, so I was already going to approach 4e in that fashion. I like a lot of the initial buzz. Then, I saw some red flags. Then, we played Star Wars Saga edition, and a few things disappointed me. Finally playing 4e, it didn’t really grab me.
I’m still reserving judgement. (Or at least trying to. ^_^) Nobody in the group seems to be in a rush to give it another go, though.
I was hugely excited about 3e. When I first read the books, I thought: “This is the D&D I would’ve designed.” Yet, in practice, I struggled with it. I wasn’t really happy with it. Which lead me to exploring a lot of other systems, reëxploring a lot of systems, and eventually developing a new appreciation for the older editions.
I now see 3e as a different yet worthy system that I enjoy when someone else is running, but which isn’t my preference.
4e? At first I was excited. I already saw 3e as a different game, so I was already going to approach 4e in that fashion. I like a lot of the initial buzz. Then, I saw some red flags. Then, we played Star Wars Saga edition, and a few things disappointed me. Finally playing 4e, it didn’t really grab me.
I’m still reserving judgement. (Or at least trying to. ^_^) Nobody in the group seems to be in a rush to give it another go, though.
From the start I had misgivings about 4e. What I wanted was 3e fixed, not a whole new system. As more started to come out, I realized they were tossing the baby with the bathwater. I started to feel that the design philosophy was pretty much completely opposite of what I wanted.
Role is a good example. Role should be defined by player interaction, not class. The slaving of role to class really bothers me.
When the game came out, I browbeat my group into playing. I wanted to kick the tires and take a test drive. The game is OK, but it is more Warhammer Quest 4E than D&D 4e. The game is too hooked to the map for combats to work right, there are too many effects that have to be tracked. There is not enough feeling that I am developing my characters, too much feeling that I have to pick certain paths.
My group has drifted back to Heavy Gear, but that may have been more a function of 8 years of D&D than the new edition
Role is a good example. Role should be defined by player interaction, not class. The slaving of role to class really bothers me.
When the game came out, I browbeat my group into playing. I wanted to kick the tires and take a test drive. The game is OK, but it is more Warhammer Quest 4E than D&D 4e. The game is too hooked to the map for combats to work right, there are too many effects that have to be tracked. There is not enough feeling that I am developing my characters, too much feeling that I have to pick certain paths.
My group has drifted back to Heavy Gear, but that may have been more a function of 8 years of D&D than the new edition
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
You have, of course, a good point. These threads crop up because it happens.
Still I wonder, why don't we see more "I still play Game X!". The closest we had recently was the "10 reasons I love 3.5"
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