D&D 5E 5e witches, your preferred implementation?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I get it. For whatever reason, people are super against there being a class called "Witch" in the PHB. A casual look through DMs Guild, Drive-Thru RPG and Kickstarter shows there's a lot of people who do want it, but those folks are all wrong to want that, as are the players I've talked to who've asked for one.

Excellent gatekeeping, everyone. 10/10

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I can go edit to make Wikipedia say that a warlock is a female kangaroo. Not the best citation.

It explained the usage history. Do you doubt it? Because I'm pretty sure it is correct.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I get it. For whatever reason, people are super against there being a class called "Witch" in the PHB. A casual look through DMs Guild, Drive-Thru RPG and Kickstarter shows there's a lot of people who do want it, but those folks are all wrong to want that, as are the players I've talked to who've asked for one.

Excellent gatekeeping, everyone. 10/10

No. I am against pointless proliferation of classes because there are words in thesaurus. That already got us sorcerer. There are too many caster classes, more are definitely not needed. Personally I'd combine sorcerer and warlock and call the resulting class 'witch.' Or just rename warlock 'witch.' Absolutely nothing against the term, I'd prefer it over 'warlock.'

 

[Cadence]

Yes. Leaving aside the merits of Charmed, there's debate around the issue, not anything approaching unanimity.

So, the witch class should include all of the most popular things in popular culture about witches and let a new player make any of them as part of the Witch class? Or should it be the designer gate keeping what should qualify as a true D&D witch? Should it make any definitive statements on what being a witch is? Should it pick a side on what Warlock can refer to?

 

[MGibster]

I'm not sure what the motivation is for everyone pretending they don't know what a "witch" means to the general public and saying "look, this totally different thing that we can argue is the same thing under a different name, even though it doesn't otherwise match what people are asking for," but it's not convincing. But hey, full internet points for whatever it is that was accomplished here.

Pictured below: What the general public thinks of when you say witch.

 

[Cadence]

I get it. For whatever reason, people are super against there being a class called "Witch" in the PHB. A casual look through DMs Guild, Drive-Thru RPG and Kickstarter shows there's a lot of people who do want it, but those folks are all wrong to want that, as are the players I've talked to who've asked for one.

No. I am against pointless proliferation of classes because there are words in thesaurus. That already got us sorcerer. There are too many caster classes, more are definitely not needed. Personally I'd combine sorcerer and warlock and call the resulting class 'witch.' Or just rename warlock 'witch.' Absolutely nothing against the term, I'd prefer it over 'warlock.'

I'd be interested in WotC doing a survey to see how players and prospective players felt about nuking Druid and Warlock from the next edition and putting in a Witch class that would subsume them as variants, and kicking something up. Feels like a thing to me!

 

[Cadence]

Excellent gatekeeping, everyone. 10/10

I need help with the definition. Is the throwing out of things in pop culture that don't fit what you might use, like post #152, gatekeeping? Or is that one true-waying? Or...? Or did you mean "everyone" literally? ;-)

 

[cbwjm]

If the designers did make a witch class, going off past creations I think they'd be looking more at pop culture references than historical references. They'd look at TV shows, books, and movies and base the class off those while creating some sort of "witchy" mechanic that differentiates the class from the other casters.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Pictured below: What the general public thinks of when you say witch.
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And?

 

[MGibster]

And?

You're the one hung up on what the general population thinks of a witch. I thought maybe you could let me know what that means.