A 3-year-old at Casino Royale!?

[Elf Witch]

In my expereince these people are matched if not exceeded in number by selfish people with entitlement issues who feel as if the very existance of a child being, you know, awake in their area and actually making some sounds is an infringement on their rights. :\ People keep saying parents can wait and rent the DVD. Hey, people who want to watch a movie all by themselves can do that too. I would say that the responisibility of parents to keep their kids from making noise is exactly the same as the responsibility of a person with a bad cold to either skip the movie or dose up enough not to hack on the back of my head all through the film - and my responsibility to accept that I'm going out in public and the public has just as much of a right to be there as I do.

I totally agree with this. When I saw Casino Royale I had to turn and tell the middle age couple behind me to shut up three times because they were talking about the movie as if they were in their living room at home.

It is not just kids making noise and behaving rudely at the movies.

I know you are a parent of a small child so I think you are being a tad oversenstive in my experience I have never seen people complain about well behaved children in places. I saw a movie last week and the couple next to me had a small a baby that slept through the movie so I had no problem with that. I just got home from Cracker Barrel where I joined some frinds for breakfast there was a family sitting next to us and the kids were full of energy and laughing and talking a little loudly like kids sometimes do. Again no problem they were not behaving badly and when the got a little to loud the parent s brought the noise level down again. And it was a family style resturant so I expected kids to be there and I think anyone who would complain about kids in a place like that are just morons.

Kids make noise they talk and laugh and they are in the process of learning what is the right behavior in public. I think most of us understand that and cut the kids some slack.

But there is a big difference between that and a child screaming in anger or a tired cranky child that needs a nap. I am parent I have a sympthy for parents dealing with a misbehaving child in public I have been in their shoes. But I think what angers people is that it seems that a lot of parents are not dealing with the screaming child they eihter ignore it or try to shush it. We have all heard the parent say if you don't stop so and so is going to happen and it never does.

 

[Elf Witch]

And all I'm saying is that my child is not a "demonseed", he's a person with impulse issues.
If I choose to take my family to a fancy restaurant, I have a right to take my whole family.
I have a right to take my child to an environment that tests his limits, where I can teach him to be well-behaved. Yes, he's going to throw a spoon on the floor. If you have a problem with that, too bad.

Leaving your child at home with the babysitter is not a sign of respect towards the child. I'm not saying you don't do it anyways, because there are some situations a kid is just not going to be able to handle. But you should not be required to do it anytime you go out someplace that is not family-oriented. Children deserve to be included in society's activities, where they can reasonably participate.

I think you are not hearing what we are saying. A child throwing a spoon on the floor once is not the problem. A child throwing a spoon on the floor over and over again and then kicking the booth so the people who are sitting in the next booth are being distrubed and made uncomfertable is another.

If you take your child to a fancy resturant and that child can't behave then you the parent need to remove the child from the resturant before the managment has to ask you to.

You do see the difference don't you?

And leaving your child with a sitter is not a bad thing is teaches the chikd that will be okay away from mom and dad for short periods of time and it gives mom and dad a chance to be someone other than mom and dad for awhile.

 

[Simplicity]

I think you are not hearing what we are saying. A child throwing a spoon on the floor once is not the problem. A child throwing a spoon on the floor over and over again and then kicking the booth so the people who are sitting in the next booth are being distrubed and made uncomfertable is another.

If you take your child to a fancy resturant and that child can't behave then you the parent need to remove the child from the resturant before the managment has to ask you to.

You do see the difference don't you?

And leaving your child with a sitter is not a bad thing is teaches the chikd that will be okay away from mom and dad for short periods of time and it gives mom and dad a chance to be someone other than mom and dad for awhile.

I've already agreed with this on this thread. Parents need to control their children's behavior in public, or remove them so that they don't cause a disturbance. But behaving well for a small child and behaving well for an adult are two different types of behavior.

I've heard hundreds and hundreds of stories about how somebody's movie was ruined by an loud kid. I've never heard the ending that goes: "and then the parent removed the kid." Because nobody cares or remembers that.

I'm okay with leaving my child with a sitter. I'm just not okay with people who demand that I do so.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I can remember many incidents when kids get removed from public venues- usually restaraunts or Church. Occasionally, those kids have been my cousins. Occasionally, I've been the adult who did the removing.

Heck, my mom once removed my youngest cousin from a movie...and sat outside the theatre with him for 30 minutes. I say sat- in reality, it was a wrestling match as he tried to get away and chase after his daddy who had gone for refreshments.

I silently commend those parents & guardians who realize that disruptive kids need to be given rapid and fair discipline. Usually, mere removal is enough- kids generally understand the loss of a privilege...but occasionally?

I'm in favor of gator pits at all public venues.

 

[DonTadow]

I've already agreed with this on this thread. Parents need to control their children's behavior in public, or remove them so that they don't cause a disturbance. But behaving well for a small child and behaving well for an adult are two different types of behavior.

I've heard hundreds and hundreds of stories about how somebody's movie was ruined by an loud kid. I've never heard the ending that goes: "and then the parent removed the kid." Because nobody cares or remembers that.

I'm okay with leaving my child with a sitter. I'm just not okay with people who demand that I do so.

But why bring the public in on the diabloical experiment. Kids are always a wild card, even the most behaved ones are. Why test the level at the 11 oclock showing of texas chain saw massacre?

 

[Scotley]

As the parent of a 2 and a third year old I can sympathize with parents who want to go out, but some thought has to go into it. I really want to see Casino Royale, but I went to Flushed Away instead. Only to discover that it held virtually no interest for my little one. He did focus on popcorn and other goodies and so other than asking several questions of the 'who's that' 'what's he doing' variety he was pretty good. He did move from seat to lap and back to seat a few times. He seemed do better at Cars--at least for the first 1 hour and 50 min then he got restless and we took him out for a bit. Anyway, he's a little young, but he is learning. We do take him out to eat frequently. He enjoys it and is generally very well behaved. We don't generally go any place that doesn't have a kids menu and booster seats. We live in the 'Burbs and most places expect families. We never let him run around the resturant and on those rare occations when his behavior gets to the point that it might disturb others we take him out. Usually, his behavior only starts to deteriorate at times when any patron might get upset. He takes it very personally when the food is wrong or the service is very slow.

I appologise to anyone out there who might have been distrubed by my son's behavior. We try to be good parents and not take him where he isn't welcome, but we don't plan to keep him home until he's 18.

 

[Elf Witch]

I've already agreed with this on this thread. Parents need to control their children's behavior in public, or remove them so that they don't cause a disturbance. But behaving well for a small child and behaving well for an adult are two different types of behavior.

I've heard hundreds and hundreds of stories about how somebody's movie was ruined by an loud kid. I've never heard the ending that goes: "and then the parent removed the kid." Because nobody cares or remembers that.

I'm okay with leaving my child with a sitter. I'm just not okay with people who demand that I do so.

You know why you don't hear the ending "then the parent removed the kid" because most people don't feel the need to complain when a parent is doing their job.

The times that stand out in your mind are the times when your movie experience is ruined because you are distrubered through most of the movie by a screaming kid or noisy adults or what have you.

It's not the one time a cell phone goes off and the person quickly shuts it off and leaves the theatre to return the call that ruins the movie its the person who answers then has a ten minute conversation. It's the same with kids.

I am not a child hater I don't expect kids to be left at home until they are teens. I like kids a lot I enjoy them. Some of my friends have small children and they know that when I plan a birthday lunch for example the kids are always welcome if they can't find a sitter or they wish to bring them.

One of the best memories I have of seeing Return of the King is a small voice shouting out when Frodo is making Sam leave on the stairs " Don't be mean to Sam" the entire audience cracked up.

I don't demand that a parent get a sitter what I demand is that a parent show some common courtsey for the other patrons.

That is one of the things that I think is causing problems in our society today and that is people are not willing to show others a little courtsey.

 

[bodhi]

I've heard hundreds and hundreds of stories about how somebody's movie was ruined by an loud kid. I've never heard the ending that goes: "and then the parent removed the kid." Because nobody cares or remembers that.

If the parent removed the kid, then the movie wouldn't be ruined. The ruination comes when the parents either ignore the child being a problem or, worse, contribute to the disruption. You don't hear stories that end "and then the waiter brought my food", either. People don't care when someone does their job, unless they do it very (very) well, or very poorly.

I'm okay with leaving my child with a sitter. I'm just not okay with people who demand that I do so.

If your child is well-behaved, that'll shut up about 90% of us. And if you're not taking a pre-teen to a cinematic gorefest or live sex show, that'll pretty much shut up the rest of us.

The complaints that I've seen, in this thread and in others, have been about parents failing to discipline their disruptive children, or parents taking their children to events which are clearly inappropriate (usually due to content).

 

[Aaron L]

I remember dragging my dad and my little brother and sister to see Ghostbusters at the theatres 4 times. '84, so I was 8 at the time. My sister was 6 and my brother was 4. I wouldn't want to give up those memories.

 

[Aaron L]

One of the best memories I have of seeing Return of the King is a small voice shouting out when Frodo is making Sam leave on the stairs " Don't be mean to Sam" the entire audience cracked up.

You know, that just makes me smile