D&D General A friend of mine has joined A 5E Dnd Group, has decided to play A Robin Hood Style character and wants to know what people think of his character

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Most every name can be given to both boys and girls, especially if youre happy to accept alternate spellings. Afterall Marion can be a boys name and Little Joni and Allana Dale could be girls.
Obviously names don’t have inherent genders, but there are still cultural gender norms around names, and Robin is decidedly gender-neutral. Probably more common for girls, at least in my experience.

Allana Dale is great though, I love that.
 

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MGibster

Legend
I always thought people took the Lawful part alignment a little too literally. A Lawful Good character who refuses to follow an evil law doesn't stop being Lawful. And likewise, a Chaotic Evil NPC who follows the orders of his Lawful Evil master to raze a village full of innocent people doesn't suddenly become Lawful himself. I have to admit that I do miss alignment, but threads like this kind of remind me why it's best that it's going the way of the Dodo.
 


JMISBEST

Explorer
There is a very good reason that Dnd has steadily moved away from alignment as having any mechanical impact to your character.... because no one agrees on alignment, this thread just being another great example.

Alignment is a role playing aid only, if it helps you get to the character you want to play great, but its really no longer a straight jacket or "reward/penalty" for playing a certain way.

As to the character, my only note is this seems more like the "personal adventurer" Robin Hood and not the "leader of men" version. Though you have persuasion your charisma is just average. If your going for more of a "leader of men, inspirer of the people" theme, I would bump up the charisma.
I asked my mate this and in his opinion A Dnd version of Robin Hood would initially be a personal adventurer who despite not being a leader of men their were people that would work alongside him and eventually for him against common foe's and eventually this would give him enough experience at Leadership for him to became a leader of men
 

Warpiglet-7

Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
I always thought people took the Lawful part alignment a little too literally. A Lawful Good character who refuses to follow an evil law doesn't stop being Lawful. And likewise, a Chaotic Evil NPC who follows the orders of his Lawful Evil master to raze a village full of innocent people doesn't suddenly become Lawful himself. I have to admit that I do miss alignment, but threads like this kind of remind me why it's best that it's going the way of the Dodo.
People are too rigid and exacting about alignment at times! But I too miss it…evil swords that harm good people but can be wielded by power hungry people without good scruples…holy swords that light up for pure people and fizzle for morally questionable ones…

Regardless I think we also overcomplicate things.

When you label good acts “evil” so that your generally good character is “evil” I suspect alignment might not be that relevant or just confusing. I would think just dump it vs. changing conventional labels that most people accept.

But whatever! Have fun and make the character you like.

In the present case I would ditch the mental gymnastics and choose something more accurately descriptive or as is the trend dump alignment for the most part.

My last thought on it is that while alignment and fuzzy boundaries have caused too much debate, a lack of alignment is a weird cosmological thing given the planes and souls…
 

A friend of mine has joined A 5E Dnd Group, has decided to play A Robin Hood Style character and wants to know what people think of his character

He's gone for A Lawful Evil Human Rogue, male naturally, of The Noble Archtype, including the +1 to every stat for being human his stats are Str 11, Con 15, Dex 17, Int 12, Wis 9 and Ch 11. From The Rogue Class he took The Skills Athletics, Deception, Perception and Stealth, as a Rogue he took Proficiencies with Deception and Stealth and from The Noble Archtype he gains The Centaur Languages and gets The Skills History and Persuasion

To those that want to know what mates stat rolls when rolling his characters stats were prior to adding +1 to every stat for being human the rolls were 2 3's and 1 4 or 10 for Str, 2 4's and 1 6 or 14 for Con, 2 5's and 1 6 for Dex, 2 4's and 1 3 or 11 for Int, 2 2's and A 4 or 8 for Wis and 1 5, 3 and 1 2 or 10 for Ch
Nice. I mean, I'm not a guru of 5e character gen, and never played a rogue, but I feel like the 5e rogue is pretty well-suited to this sort of character archetype. They can be quite effective in combat, sneaky and skillful, etc. The noble background adds some nice flavor to it and lets the player play off of the various tropes associated with medieval nobility.

As for alignment, who cares? I mean, its a morass of differing ideas about what they really mean, and I can see the thread was already going south on that subject. Maybe in play this will get changed anyway? If not, it really just doesn't matter much. Perhaps this is a bit of a less super upstanding Robin Hood! Maybe if he gains power, he'll be just another arsehole in power, could be interesting.
 



If you are looking at history, rather than myth, the issue with John wasn't that he was any more evil than anyone else, it was that he was incompetent. Richard, of course, was far more interested in playing soldiers oversees than paying attention to running his countries. Which also sounds pretty familiar.
 

Laurefindel

Legend
Now I think about it, in many interpretations Robin Hood was super loyal to Richard I, and "the Lionheart" was not exactly a great guy, so maybe OP is onto something.
Now I want to make a game from the POV of John as the good guy trying to keep his country together in the absence of his ass-hole king brother, aided by his sheriffs (PC?) against a bunch of nobles-turned-brigands who just can’t let go of their king’s warring.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Now I want to make a game from the POV of John as the good guy trying to keep his country together in the absence of his ass-hole king brother, aided by his sheriffs (PC?) against a bunch of nobles-turned-brigands who just can’t let go of their king’s warring.
Thats pretty much what John was doing irl. His elder brothers Henry the Younger and Richard first attempted to overthrow their father with the help of the French AND rebel barons. Then when Father Henry won, he sent Richard back to quell the barons in Angevin france only for Richard to rebel again. Then Richard was off to Crusade again raising taxes on the Barons and Clergy to pay for that and later his ransom.
By the time John attempted to claim the crown England was broke, he went to the French King again for aid, but as a result had to forfeit much of the Angevin lands in France over so that his claim to England could be recognised. Of course his nephew (the actually heir to Richard mysteriuosly disappeared while in his care, which is largely why the English didnt Trust him).
In reality John wasnt bad to the commoners, he was just a really bad negotiator and a bit dumb when it came to his lusts for noble women, thus neither the Barons nor the Church liked him and as a result rumours and gossip became legend.
 


JMISBEST

Explorer
I think so too, though to be fair he has been politely asked to keep most of his interesting story ideas in one thread. Maybe this neat discussion on alignment can be the new "One Thread."
Can you provide me with a link to the thread that was made for all of my threads?. I can't find it
 

Can you provide me with a link to the thread that was made for all of my threads?. I can't find it
Sure! Here you go.
I don't want to speak for Morrus but either thread is probably fine. The important thing is picking one place to put all your cool ideas. You can even edit the opening post to include a list/link to the page with the latest idea, so everyone can follow along easily!
 

pukunui

Legend
Sure! Here you go.
I don't want to speak for Morrus but either thread is probably fine. The important thing is picking one place to put all your cool ideas. You can even edit the opening post to include a list/link to the page with the latest idea, so everyone can follow along easily!
Also, for future reference, @JMISBEST: You can find a list of all the threads you've started by clicking on "Find threads" and then "Your threads" in the forum menu at the top of the page.

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