Jack Daniel
Legend
@Snarf Zagyg — Your wall of quotations (all of which I was already quite familiar with, TYVM) does not justify your outlandish claim that Moldvay Basic is somehow not a revision of Holmes Basic. What would you have us believe: that Moldvay Basic sprang into being ex nihilo? That the Cook/Marsh Expert Set isn't likewise a direct revision of the white box (as if the clerical spell progression wasn't evidence enough of that)?
Obviously Moldvay/Cook, Mentzer, and Denning/Allston are the games that directly inherited original D&D's title and position within TSR's publishing catalog. (That it's so because of Arneson-related legal matters isn't relevant.) That doesn't take away from Holmes being the introduction to OD&D or AD&D being an expansion and codification of OD&D, but it's nevertheless a fact—at least as far as the texts themselves are concerned.
Feel free to block me again in another fit of pique if you must, but it won't change what's right there in black and white (or fugly sky blue and white, as the case may be).
Is AD&D, which is essentially an expansion of OD&D by including the many supplements and rules that Gygax had come up with, the inheritor of the OD&D line, or is Moldvay Basic (and BECMI, RC).
Obviously Moldvay/Cook, Mentzer, and Denning/Allston are the games that directly inherited original D&D's title and position within TSR's publishing catalog. (That it's so because of Arneson-related legal matters isn't relevant.) That doesn't take away from Holmes being the introduction to OD&D or AD&D being an expansion and codification of OD&D, but it's nevertheless a fact—at least as far as the texts themselves are concerned.
Feel free to block me again in another fit of pique if you must, but it won't change what's right there in black and white (or fugly sky blue and white, as the case may be).
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