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ART!

Hero
About expertise dice. What these do is they introduce a mild bell curve (atcually a flattened pyramid curve with one small expertise die) and I like bell/pyramid curves. But adding them to a d20 system seems to be outside the d20 paradigm. To me, expertise dice feel half-assed. Are you sure what you want is not to go to a system that is entirely about random distribution curves? Like 2d10 instead of d20? I can see how the d20 is a sacred cow, but I am not sure expertise dice is the cure. Then again, I have not played with expertise dice. What I have played with is the Wild Die of Savage Worlds, and that works spectacularly well.

I also loathe the Earthdawn phenomenon where you could not roll until you know of all the modifiers because the modifiers changed what kind of dice you should roll. That does seem nopt to be the case here, but I thought it worth mentioning as an example to avoid.

Again, these are simple viewpoints, not demands.

Forgive me if I missed something, but wouldn't these expertise dice be just like the variant proficiency die option in the DMG? If yes, then this expertise die is firmly sticking within the confines of 5E.
 

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Starfox

Adventurer
Forgive me if I missed something, but wouldn't these expertise dice be just like the variant proficiency die option in the DMG? If yes, then this expertise die is firmly sticking within the confines of 5E.
I was not aware of this option, but I like it. I think this is a good way to use an additional die in that it is always the SAME die. It doesn't suddenly change from d4 to d6 to 2d8 - you know what set of dice you are supposed to roll. And if you don't have proficiency with a certain task and still rolled the proficiency die, it is easy to remove from the total.
 

Horwath

Hero
Maybe expertise die would be better if it scales automatically like in DMG:
1d4, at 5th level d6, at 9th level d8, at 13th level d10 and at 17th level d12.

spending an extra class resource to increase +2,5 bonus to +3,5 seem too expensive for something that was default in core game.

I think I will house rule expertise dice that way for A5E.

Maybe using both skill dice and expertise dice for skill checks.
 

Faolyn

Hero
Forgive me if I missed something, but wouldn't these expertise dice be just like the variant proficiency die option in the DMG? If yes, then this expertise die is firmly sticking within the confines of 5E.
It's added to your proficiency bonus, so you get a d20 + attribute mod + proficiency bonus + expertise die.
 

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