A thing about d20 D&D I didn't like, and still don't know why it was done...

[Piratecat]

Then were is the discussion? You don't like it, great. And there is nothing the people that do like are going to say to make you see otherwise. You seem to have created a thread just to put down the current game.

I disagree! And even if I didn't, guessing at his motivations isn't appropriate.

I find it interesting that tDD doesn't like unified xp. This was one of the things that I really, truly love about 3e. It makes a lot of things more elegant, and no longer do we have an idea of making super-powerful classes that are supposedly balanced because they take longer to level. That method just meant that the PC was more powerfuyl than the rest of the group for 85% of the time.

 

[thedungeondelver]

I'm not sure I understand how the combat example in the OP relates to the premise.

WHat I was saying was "here's a situation where characters overcome a monster and gain some XP. They all overcome the monster in different ways, and apply what they learned about overcoming that monster differently."

(That's all it was, really! I promise! )

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

While I dislike nearly everything about earlier editions, the exp charts were indicitive of the problem I hated the most. Gygax's obsession with caster classes, and how they had to be "the best". Typical geek power trip fantasy. Hey rogue, you dont have a real place in the game, but at least you'll get to suck a level higher than the other guys.

No thanks.

BTW this is a d20 site. Go have a grognard whine fest elsewhere. I dont whine on the white wolf sites how I dont like the storyteller system, or troll the castles and crusades forums on how I think the system is for people who just want dumbed down D&D.

 

[Crothian]

One of the great things about all classes using the same table is as DM I can ignore XP. I can just have them all gain a level when I feel they should and they all do it at the same time. With different table the DM has to be aware of who gains levels fastest and it would be harder to do this fly by the seat of the pants leveling.

 

[Treebore]

While I dislike nearly everything about earlier editions, the exp charts were indicitive of the problem I hated the most. Gygax's obsession with caster classes, and how they had to be "the best". Typical geek power trip fantasy. Hey rogue, you dont have a real place in the game, but at least you'll get to suck a level higher than the other guys.

No thanks.

BTW this is a d20 site. Go have a grognard whine fest elsewhere. I dont whine on the white wolf sites how I dont like the storyteller system, or troll the castles and crusades forums on how I think the system is for people who just want dumbed down D&D.

 

[ruleslawyer]

The unified XP table is an elegant simplification that encourages internal consistency, makes multiclassing infinitely better balanced and easier to gauge, and condenses all of the different power measurements of "level" (one per class) into a single measurement.

What's not to like?

 

[Treebore]

While I dislike nearly everything about earlier editions, the exp charts were indicitive of the problem I hated the most. Gygax's obsession with caster classes, and how they had to be "the best". Typical geek power trip fantasy. Hey rogue, you dont have a real place in the game, but at least you'll get to suck a level higher than the other guys.

No thanks.

BTW this is a d20 site. Go have a grognard whine fest elsewhere. I dont whine on the white wolf sites how I dont like the storyteller system, or troll the castles and crusades forums on how I think the system is for people who just want dumbed down D&D.

BTW, your welcome to come to the Troll Lord boards and try and teach us the error of our ways, as long as your capable of doing it in a mature and respectful manner. Otherwise your thread will just get deleted.

 

[Kelvor Ravenstar]

BTW this is a d20 site. Go have a grognard whine fest elsewhere. I dont whine on the white wolf sites how I dont like the storyteller system, or troll the castles and crusades forums on how I think the system is for people who just want dumbed down D&D.

Seriously? While EnWorld began as a place to discuss the news about the upcoming 3rd Edition and D20 products, the number of threads in the general discussion forum that discuss the older editions is a significant number. This sort of comment would have been more appropriate on the Wizards.com boards. This is a D&D site, not only a D20 one.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

It makes balancing classes (not that real balance is ever possible) that much more difficult with out unified XP charts. It makes more sense to simply make a class weaker than make it take longer to reach the next level.

 

[thedungeondelver]

BTW this is a d20 site. Go have a grognard whine fest elsewhere. I dont whine on the white wolf sites how I dont like the storyteller system, or troll the castles and crusades forums on how I think the system is for people who just want dumbed down D&D.

Odd, I quite clearly recall seeing a "1e/2e/OD&D" drop down on the general topic tag. Huh! Must be...what, a left over or something?