Ahsoka - SPOILERS

[MarkB]

I played in a Star Wars game where one of my friends had the character concept of very friendly, nice person who wanted to force choke people and shoot force lightning, so he had to keep on committing arbitrary acts of cruelty just to keep his dark side points high enough. He would always apologize later, but he had to kick puppies and stuff so that he could wield the true power that he wanted.

Like the old True Neutral druids of earlier D&D editions. Got to mix some villainy in with your heroism so you don't accidentally become to Good for your vocation.

 

[Zardnaar]

Like the old True Neutral druids of earlier D&D editions. Got to mix some villainy in with your heroism so you don't accidentally become to Good for your vocation.

I kinda interpreted it as they dont xare to much beyond the destruction of the forest or whatever.

The dark one marches past to save the City of Light they don't care. City of Light routs them once again they don't care.

If either one comes to harvest the forest that's a problem. Basically they're indifferent beyond their own goals/interests which don't involve cosmic goid/evil or law/chaos.

2E Druid Handbook explained it quite well. They might cut a deal with the local lord allowing them to hunt regardless of their alignment if said lord prevented the peasants from pillaging the forest.

Or might go and advise said peasants on plants or whatever so they don't need to go and plunder the forest.

Don't expect a Druid to care about your local society or political problems though. They might for their own reasons or no reason or even a personal reason eg Druids family lives in town.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Like the old True Neutral druids of earlier D&D editions. Got to mix some villainy in with your heroism so you don't accidentally become to Good for your vocation.

I never played Druids that way, in that personal Balance was not the factor, but world Balance instead. There is more than enough evil being done in the world that if a Druid did stuff more on the Good side, it was alright.

 

[Clint_L]

The most recent episode was okay. I have basically accepted that the writers need the New Republic to be absolute morons so they don't have to work too hard on the plot, so I now mostly ignore the eye-rolling idiocy. It felt like much of this episode was inside baseball; I haven't watched the animated show so probably there was a lot of stuff that might mean more to others who have. The main cast continues to be strong in their roles, though as always I think fully fledged Jedi as lead characters are problematic - too zen - so I'd like to see Ahsoka get pushed to the edge more - it's Rosario Dawson; give her more to chew on. The visuals remain absolutely fantastic, except for uncanny valley Anakin, but they were wise to use a literal fog of war to mostly take the edge off his CGI. Hera is an unbelievably reckless parent, but she's part of New Republic leadership and I think we've established that good decision making is very low on their list of job requirements. I have so many questions about the space whales but I suspect I'd have to watch seasons of animated shows to get an answer, so I shall be content to live in mystery. David Tennant continues to kill; that guy could read a menu and I would hang on every word. 6/10.

 

[Stalker0]

If you allow yourself to by guided by the Force, you are acting without free will. And if the light side denies free will, it cannot be "good".

Well considering the jedi indoctrinate young children and turned them into child soldiers, and believe in "removing attachments".... yeah some would say they aren't exactly the traditional definition of "good".

One of the interesting things about the force is, apparently it has a will, but no one actually knows what its goal is. Maybe the force's goal isn't by our traditional definitions "good" either.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well considering the jedi indoctrinate young children and turned them into child soldiers, and believe in "removing attachments".... yeah some would say they aren't exactly the traditional definition of "good".

One of the interesting things about the force is, apparently it has a will, but no one actually knows what its goal is. Maybe the force's goal isn't by our traditional definitions "good" either.

I think the clone wars was more an aberration using padawans in war.

They get martial training young that's not to dissimilar to curious cultures here.

Its basically what Baylan is talking about.

I think it's more part of the genre vs commentary on child soldiers. Young person picks up weapon goes on quest etc etc.

You were also treated as an adult a lot earlier in less enlightened times. Different galaxy different rules and society expectations.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

The most recent episode was okay. I have basically accepted that the writers need the New Republic to be absolute morons so they don't have to work too hard on the plot, so I now mostly ignore the eye-rolling idiocy. It felt like much of this episode was inside baseball; I haven't watched the animated show so probably there was a lot of stuff that might mean more to others who have. The main cast continues to be strong in their roles, though as always I think fully fledged Jedi as lead characters are problematic - too zen - so I'd like to see Ahsoka get pushed to the edge more - it's Rosario Dawson; give her more to chew on. The visuals remain absolutely fantastic, except for uncanny valley Anakin, but they were wise to use a literal fog of war to mostly take the edge off his CGI. Hera is an unbelievably reckless parent, but she's part of New Republic leadership and I think we've established that good decision making is very low on their list of job requirements. I have so many questions about the space whales but I suspect I'd have to watch seasons of animated shows to get an answer, so I shall be content to live in mystery. David Tennant continues to kill; that guy could read a menu and I would hang on every word. 6/10.

Good thing there is different stuff for different people. I consider every episode of Ahsoka to be better than at least 10 of the 12 episodes of Andor. Ahsoka feels like Star Wars to me, while Andor does not.

 

[Clint_L]

Good thing there is different stuff for different people.

Fair.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Well considering the jedi indoctrinate young children and turned them into child soldiers, and believe in "removing attachments".... yeah some would say they aren't exactly the traditional definition of "good".

One of the interesting things about the force is, apparently it has a will, but no one actually knows what its goal is. Maybe the force's goal isn't by our traditional definitions "good" either.

I’d say it’s unlikely that the Force has a complex will, but more likely instead that it is fairly broad and simple, and definitely not bound to our morality.

That said, The Jedi were weak, and thier judgement clouded, in thier last couple decades, for a reason.

 

[Zardnaar]

I’d say it’s unlikely that the Force has a complex will, but more likely instead that it is fairly broad and simple, and definitely not bound to our morality.

That said, The Jedi were weak, and thier judgement clouded, in thier last couple decades, for a reason.

That's the great mystery isn't it. There's power force entities in canon and old EU. Lucas had the whills idea going on (recycled into mortis gods?).

Kinda hinted at the force created Anakin to deal with the Sith.