A promise.Is that a question or a promise?
A promise.Is that a question or a promise?
My my, is Friday already? Jump on in, the water's warm.A promise.
Oh Torm, forgive me for this trespass.My my, is Friday already? Jump on in, the water's warm.
Do you regard any of them as professional? Is WotC the only company putting out 5E content that meets your standards?
If that's your entire list, then yeah, you're out of luck for 5E content.IMHO, WotC and Paizo (and until recently FFG), along with a handful of smaller publishers like Cubicle 7 and Chaosium, are the only professional outfits publishing RPG books.
It's no wonder you are unhappy with the available 5E material when you ignore the vast majority of it. And that's fine. But it seems a little strange to then get upset that you don't have stuff to buy. WotC's business model explicitly includes those 3rd party publisher's you so easily dismiss.IMHO, WotC and Paizo (and until recently FFG), along with a handful of smaller publishers like Cubicle 7 and Chaosium, are the only professional outfits publishing RPG books. Basically, employing professional full-time staff to edit, design, and lay out your books is the hallmark of a professional publisher.
It absolutely is. I started in 2e, but I am the only person in my group who really got into 4e, if we wanna talk anecdotes. But beyond the anecdotes, 4e was ridiculed (unfairly) for how different it seemed, how it “killed sacred cows”, etc. Complaints that a new player basically couldn’t make.I just thought I would point out that I played a 7+ year 4e campaign with a group all but one of whom first played D&D in the early 80s. And for some of us the last extended D&D campaigns we were involved in were AD&D.
Most of, or at least many of, the people on these boards who post about their 4e play have pretty extensive play histories.
I know there were plenty of people who didn't like 4e and felt affronted by its existence, but I don't think old players is the right description.
There certainly weren't any new players having that reaction. Some of 'em may have started with 3e, and been less old, but the negative "not really D&D" reaction was entirely in the established player base.I know there were plenty of people who didn't like 4e and felt affronted by its existence, but I don't think old players is the right description.
IMHO, WotC and Paizo (and until recently FFG), along with a handful of smaller publishers like Cubicle 7 and Chaosium, are the only professional outfits publishing RPG books. Basically, employing professional full-time staff to edit, design, and lay out your books is the hallmark of a professional publisher.
It's no wonder you are unhappy with the available 5E material when you ignore the vast majority of it. And that's fine. But it seems a little strange to then get upset that you don't have stuff to buy. WotC's business model explicitly includes those 3rd party publisher's you so easily dismiss.