D&D 5E Amazon US book sales rank.
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Parmandur
Book-Friend
Just a guess, but I suspect thst people buying a new PHB from Amazon in 2023 are not duper plugged into the gaming community, and possibly nit NOR listeners or Washington Post readers. Probably mainly 12 year Olds, or aunts/uncles/grand/godparents of 12 year old, though with those numbers I would expect diversity.
teitan
Legend
I remember when I pointed out low page count for Spelljammer and got a few raised hairs for it and it’s less pages for $60.
teitan
Legend
I have a feeling it was put together quickly and they didn’t really get to work on those rules because Baldur’s Gate had vehicle rules and Saltmarsh had naval rules in them that were more substantial. With the increased production cycle they didn’t have the lead time to develop what they needed for the project with the size of the team they had when they started.
teitan
Legend
People buying up copies because they were planning to boycott 1DnD no doubt. I have four PHB, 2 DMG, 2 MM, 2 Xanathar, and 2 Tasha’s myself. Mainly because we don’t really plan to buy more than the core rules for 1DnD to check them out but don’t have a strong inclination to update with all that and the Kobold Press books that are available and our DCC game hitting all the right buttons.
darjr
I crit!
The keys book has. The others? Not so much.
Selling well, absolutely!
But they did through out the OGL debacle.
Which makes me realize that the effort to stop the bleeding at WotC wasn’t for the books sake. They were doing fine, at Amazon anyway.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
Well, they got a bloody nose and decided to reverse course before bleeding more, rather than pull a Monty Python Black Knight.
Yeah - it was about online presence, not book sales. The book sales numbers would be lagging indicators as more and more people found out about it but the DDB cancellations were where they realized they had a mess on their hands.
DarkCrisis
Legend
My local store still sold D&D books just fine BUT they also sold everything else REALLY WELL. Like sold out of Pathfinder and a few third party stuff.
teitan
Legend
Everything at WOTC is about DDB. They think that it’s all about that VTT and they are the future of gaming. Hate to break it to them but just like how action figures are starting to slow in sales, home games are becoming the norm and by the time that VTT launches they’re subscriber base isn’t going to be using their VTT at the expected levels. All their OGL redlines indicated they were working purely from DDB numbers so looking at Amazon number for what WOTC think is successful is fruitless. They just see everything as 25% sales levels and frown.
darjr
I crit!
Heist has def jumped up. See it here were it was $15 also. At 5819 something in ranking.
edit: note it might have been at that price for a while. So maybe it has been confused with keys.
edit: note it might have been at that price for a while. So maybe it has been confused with keys.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
Pretty good material in Dragon Heist for running an urban game, albeit not a Heist per se. Could mix well with the actual Heist elements of Golden Keys, clever price drop...
teitan
Legend
Might have gotten a ton in from WOTC and moved them into fast moving product category. All the D&D books tend to be in that category (thus the constant big discount on $50 hc) but the last 6 months have been a lot of %50+ off prices with competition from Target and Walmart on those prices. and yeah, it's a good adventure. People who keyed in on the word Heist, expecting Ocean's 11 and trash it had the wrong expectation.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
Bit of a marketing fail, really.
teitan
Legend
Yeah some of that. It has a heist, just not the central plot element really, well, it is but it's not the rapid fire type of heist that really became popular in the 70s and defined it. It's more like a bank robbery late in the game. Up to then it's a pretty standard adventure with intriguing villains and set up carrying into the final bits and links to Dungeon of the Mad Mage which... is a great book but a tool kit for a cool dungeon to sprinkle into a campaign.
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