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Kurotowa said:
Given what we know, I think it would be dangerous to assume that DR of any type is extant in 4e, much less damage typed DR.

I'm aware that they've said they're moving away from that kind of thing. But with the forced skills, I'm a little more wary than usual at the moment. :p

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Wyzard: So this is your doing! *shakes fist*
 

MasterGarrow05 said:
Anywho, I got the impression on first read that the "healing surges" wasn't so much the number you get per day, but the number of hit points you get back per healing surge.

your thoughts?

This is possible, however... past about 3rd level, you're getting an absurdly small (and decreasing) percentage of your hit points back if it is just 6+con mod.
 

Voss said:
Sorry, but I am entirely at a loss for any aspect (beyond the full power list) thats 'clearly incomplete'.

The only thing apart from the power list that I would say is missing is power and feat progression as it levels, but I suspect that's unified for all the classes.

I don't know why this looks incomplete either.
 


mach1.9pants said:
Not really DnD is, and always has been, based on quasi medieval Europe. Other cultures are there but they are in campaign extras or different campaign worlds

Have you read Worlds & Monster?

THE BURDEN OF HISTORY
In it, it said that since 'Chainmail' D&D have been influenced by European history and culture. ... The various editions of D&D continued this trend. ... The 3rd editiontion took a step away from reliance on the real world by designing new and unique appearances for armor and weapons. ... The setting remained historic medieval world onto which fantasy elements were grafted. The two concept don't blend well. ...

In other words 4E is a clean break from the past, and rely less on medieval history, but is now more fantasy oriented. So I'm not surprised that they mix foreign elements like shuriken and treat it as fantasy. Healing potions and Griffon as mount (instead of only Mule and Horse) in the PHB.

Man, this is so anime!
(but yes, people are right when they are joking about it)
 

maybe i'm wrong. but even if it is times per day + con bonus, it still isn't scaling . . .

unless there's a separate table of some kind, maybe you get x hp from 1st-10th, y hp from 11th-20th, etc. or i could be right and there's a separate table for how many times a day you can use a healing surge. . . ah hell, too much conjecture

also:

why the heck shuriken? if you don't get to use it on ANY of the 1st level powers listed? Even the deft shot allows crossbows but not shuriken?
 

Incenjucar said:
The thing with "Shuriken" is that most people are going to link that directly to a specific culture.

When working with a "generic" system, you generally want to use "generic" names.

You don't call a short sword "wakizashi" as a default.

I'm actually stunned that they didn't rename short sword "wakizashi". What were they thinking?!? :p
 

Voss said:
This is possible, however... past about 3rd level, you're getting an absurdly small (and decreasing) percentage of your hit points back if it is just 6+con mod.

But if the Con modifier is including 1/2 level in it, then it would scale much better.
 


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