Ampersand: Sneak Attack

[The Ubbergeek]

They were a set of skills and powers in 3e. They appear to be much, much more restrictive now.

1. A preview of some stuff.

2. I don't thinks so, unless you saw the finished product.

 

[HeinorNY]

Regarding Weapon Proficiencies: Maybe characters gain a bonus to BAB with weapons they are proficient with, instead of a penalty with non-proficient weapons.

 

[Voss]

So, for the people who think that we are only being shown part of the class, what makes you think so?

I know we only got a sampling of the powers, but I do believe that is the entire entry from the class chapter. At least, I don't see any reason to think it isn't Advancement is a unified chart, you have the class features, and all the basic stuff, so... there it all is, bar the powers and unified advancement chart.

 

[The Ubbergeek]

The thing with "Shuriken" is that most people are going to link that directly to a specific culture.

When working with a "generic" system, you generally want to use "generic" names.

You don't call a short sword "wakizashi" as a default.

Sorry, but that is hypocrite. European and near names are good, but not foreign?

Flamberge, main gauche, falchion, etc... it's good? But not shuriken or kwan do?

Sounds like chauvinism a bit.

 

[The Ubbergeek]

So, for the people who think that we are only being shown part of the class, what makes you think so?

I know we only got a sampling of the powers, but I do believe that is the entire entry from the class chapter.

It's a preview, clearly incomplete on some things. Your 'only thieving' bit is a show of it.

 

[Incenjucar]

Sorry, but that is hypocrite. European and near names are good, but not foreign?

Flamberge, main gauche, falchion, etc... it's good? But not shuriken or kwan do?

Sounds like chauvinism a bit.

Don't put words in my mouth.

I did NOT say "oh hey let's use French words for specific versions of generic weapons."

I said "oh hey let's use generic words in ENGLISH for the ENGLISH edition of the game."

Hence why I said "short sword" and not "Le petit stabby" or whatever.

 

[CleverNickName]

Sorry, but that is hypocrite. European and near names are good, but not foreign?

Flamberge, main gauche, falchion, etc... it's good? But not shuriken or kwan do?

Sounds like chauvinism a bit.

Aw man, this again? Come on, guys...I'm sorry I even brought it up. We are all friends here...let's compromise, agree to call it a knif-ken, and get back to discussing that brand-spanking new rogue.

 

[Incenjucar]

Aw man, this again? Come on, guys...I'm sorry I even brought it up. We are all friends here...let's compromise, agree to call it a knifken, and get back to discussing the brand-spanking new rogue.

Why not daggerborn?

 

[Voss]

It's a preview, clearly incomplete on some things. Your 'only thieving' bit is a show of it.

Sorry, but I am entirely at a loss for any aspect (beyond the full power list) thats 'clearly incomplete'. There are a couple things that aren't class specific that I don't know exactly how they work (like healing surge), but everything else seems to be there.

The limitiations (such as the automatic thievery & stealth skills) seem to be intentional design decisions, not a product of something left out- the class prints out on an almost solid two pages (just the class info, not the intro or powers), which seems about right. It even includes suggested builds,and I expect most class features are powers now, so you don't need anything beyond that basic handful.

 

[mach1.9pants]

Sorry, but that is hypocrite. European and near names are good, but not foreign?

Flamberge, main gauche, falchion, etc... it's good? But not shuriken or kwan do?

Sounds like chauvinism a bit.

Not really DnD is, and always has been, based on quasi medieval Europe. Other cultures are there but they are in campaign extras or different campaign worlds