Angel: 3 April 2003

[Vocenoctum]

Nah, sorry. The whole "Teens can be thick-headed" excuse just doesn't play anymore for me. Connor is aggravatingly moronic beyond any plausible excuse.

I want to see Connor dead and off Angel but quick. Not reformed, not apologetic, not as a villain, not as an anti-hero. Dead. Get him the hell off my show.

This isn't "Oh, the character's effective, you're supposed to dislike him" hatred. This is "He's about an inch from spoiling what is otherwise my favorite show" hatred. He's served his purpose. Now kill the berk already before he ruins the best show on TV.

But hey, that's just me.

I know the feeling (though I just sigh at Conner for his idiocy, he's just not worth getting aggravated about), but that's how I felt about the battletech plot. I didn't hate the villainess because she was evil. I dreaded every book Stackpole wrote because her presence was so mind numbingly irritating.
So I stopped reading Stackpole.

Buffy & Angel both have a certain lack of suspension of disbelief. I find myself either ignoring things and trying to work around it, or trying to force some logic to what happens. Such as no one noticing Cordie's little problems. Or how the writers thought a chubby pregnant lady would be fearsome or whatever...
Conner, just too stupid. But, since he was part of the Master's plot, perhaps he was Destined to be Stupid! That's it, it's DESTINY!

Likewise, how many times have people gone "well, this doesn't make sense, but I trust Whedon..."
I still enjoy the shows more than watching... well there's nothing else really on, but still, I mostly enjoy the shows!

(I attribute it also to wanting to know what's going on in the metaplot. Same way I have bought game products for lines I'll never play again, but like to follow the metaplot.)

 

[Agamon]

Probably. Or maybe this is just a small part of the First itself manifesting to start a new world old. Mean time the other half of the First keeps the Slayers busy while it builds up its power base in LA.

I really DID like this ep but I still feel like a lot of you. Connor WHY!!? What do you see that in woman!?! Still trying to figure out though just why it chose Cordy? I mean if they knew about Fred, why not choose her?

They said why when Skip blabbed it all to them. This has been set up from the beginning. It's why Cordy accidentally bumped into Angel and joined up with in the beginnning, and why she got the visions from Doyle, which started becoming unbareable without her being half-demon. Enter Skip.

As for why Cordelia, who knows? I'd say it's because Charisma Carpenter is hot.

 

[Welverin]

I certainly don't get a Wesley (Crusher, from TNG ) feel from him. That character was just blech. Connor is not even close to that.

You're right. Connor's a billion times worse.