Any 1st level feats that give a Sorceror another spell

[Nifft]

For some strange reason, it is not listed with all the other feats in the book, or in the feats chapter even. It's listed in the back of the book, on page 181, under the Arcane Organizations section of the book. It's right next to the Collegiate Wizard feat.

I suspect the "strange reason" is that it's not really mean to be a freely feat available feat to all PCs, but rather a special DM treat to be handed out for some specific character concept.

It certainly seems to have undergone less editing and balance testing than the rest of the feats in the book.

-- N

 

[Mistwell]

Any idea what issues of Dragon this came from? I don't have access to this book right now but some of my buddies have lots of Dragon Issues.

Thanks

I don't think it's Dragon Magazine. It sounds like Draconomicon or Races of Dragon?

 

[Jack Simth]

You want Dragon 311, 325, and 335, I think, for the Bloodline feats; which give extra spells known per spell level from 1st -> 9th (spell levels, that is). You can find them all in one spot in the Realms Helps (link should go straight to them, bypassing the search).

 

[Wraith-Hunter]

You want Dragon 311, 325, and 335, I think, for the Bloodline feats; which give extra spells known per spell level from 1st -> 9th (spell levels, that is). You can find them all in one spot in the Realms Helps (link should go straight to them, bypassing the search).

THANKS!

 

[Jack Simth]

THANKS!

You're welcome.

Do make sure to read them fairly carefully, though; there's an opportunity cost involved in each bloodline, as they remove categories of spells from your class list.

 

[FalcWP]

If its an Eberron game (or your DM is willing to bring in some Eberron material), there's the Dragonmarked Sorcerer feat from Dragon 351 - any sorcerer spellfrom your dragonmarked house's dragonmarks is added to your list of known spells.

 

[hanniball]

It certainly seems to have undergone less editing and balance testing than the rest of the feats in the book.

-- N

Only if you're of the, rather dubious, opinion that it allows early entry into various Prcs. Otherwise, it's pretty well balanced, IMO.

Unless I am wrong you don't gain any -known- spells with this feat. You just add some divine spells to your class list. You could learn healing spells for example as a wiz/sor if you took the helaing domain, but you would not know them, you would have to learn them normally and as a Sor spend one of your known spell slots to know them.

Please correct me if I'm wrong it would be really cool if it added a domain of spells to your list or known spells!

You are correct that the feat doesn't add the spells to your list of known spells, only your spell list. Being that a Sorcerer doesn't have Know (Religion) as a class skill, she may not select this feat at first level anyway, so it's a rather moot point.

Either way...just my 2 cp

 

[Jack Simth]

You are correct that the feat doesn't add the spells to your list of known spells, only your spell list. Being that a Sorcerer doesn't have Know (Religion) as a class skill, she may not select this feat at first level anyway, so it's a rather moot point.

As a Sorcerer, it's a moot point anyway. The Sorcerer isn't restricted to Sor/Wiz spells.

Seriously.

Compare:

Spells: A sorcerer casts arcane spells which are drawn primarily from the sorcerer/wizard spell list. He can cast any spell he knows without preparing it ahead of time, the way a wizard or a cleric must (see below).

(emphasis and emphasis added)

Spells: A wizard casts arcane spells which are drawn from the sorcerer/ wizard spell list. A wizard must choose and prepare her spells ahead of time (see below).

(emphasis added)

Spells: A cleric casts divine spells, which are drawn from the cleric spell list. However, his alignment may restrict him from casting certain spells opposed to his moral or ethical beliefs; see Chaotic, Evil, Good, and Lawful Spells, below. A cleric must choose and prepare his spells in advance (see below).

(emphasis added)

Spells: A druid casts divine spells, which are drawn from the druid spell list. Her alignment may restrict her from casting certain spells opposed to her moral or ethical beliefs; see Chaotic, Evil, Good, and Lawful Spells, below. A druid must choose and prepare her spells in advance (see below).

(emphasis added)

Spells: A bard casts arcane spells, which are drawn from the bard spell list. He can cast any spell he knows without preparing it ahead of time. Every bard spell has a verbal component (singing, reciting, or music).

(emphasis added)

Spells: Beginning at 4th level, a paladin gains the ability to cast a small number of divine spells, which are drawn from the paladin spell list. A paladin must choose and prepare her spells in advance.

(emphasis added)

Spells: Beginning at 4th level, a ranger gains the ability to cast a small number of divine spells, which are drawn from the ranger spell list. A ranger must choose and prepare his spells in advance (see below).

(emphasis added)

For every other spellcasting class in the PHB, they're drawn from the class list. For the Sorcerer, they're drawn primarily from the class list.

Most people miss that.

Once you manage to convince your DM that the Sorcerer has more leeway in their options (although you must gain some understanding of them through study if they aren't Sor/Wiz spells), you're liable to end up with one of two basic rulings:

Any arcane list (sorcerers do cast arcane spells, after all).
Or any list (but they're arcane spells - some are both, after all).

Mind you, you still need to gain some understanding of them through study. Whether that's watching the Cleric each time a Heal is handed out, making a Spellcraft check, or something else, it's an option.

Plus, it fits some of the flavor of a Sorcerer - in many places, it's mentioned that they get their spells from their draconic bloodline.... and most True Dragons can know spells off the cleric list (with Domains available!) as well as the Sor/Wiz list.

 

[Cutty Sark]

A sorcerer casts arcane spells which are drawn primarily from the sorcerer/wizard spell list.

You don't think that maybe it is worded differently because the sorcerer does not have access to the entire sorcerer/wizard spell list?

 

[Seeten]

Which Sorc/Wiz spells on the Sorc/Wiz list is barred to them? Also, no, that would be poor english, to say "Drawn Primarily" means there is an additional, secondary source also, in proper usage.