Anyone else finding their TTRPG spending going down for lack of interest/need?

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I got back into TTRPGs with D&D 5e, and over the past few years have spent a lot of money on WotC, Kobold Press, Goodman Games, Frog God Games, and a variety of kickstarters. I've also bought a number of non-D&D systems, mostly from Kickstarter.

But now I find myself scrolling through the crowdfunding roll-up posts here on ENWorld and not even bothering to click through to anything.

At this point I find I have more content than I can play through in the next few years. There really is nothing more that I need ("need" not really being the right word for a hobby, but there was a lot of stuff I felt I "needed" in the past and now my RPG needs are fulfilled).

Anyone else in this boat? If so, what are you still spending money on?

For myself, my money is going to subscriptions, but mostly to related entertainment (rather than gaming material).

1. Subscriptions

I subscribe to D&D Beyond and don't see that changing.

I subscribe to ENWorld's EN5ider because I like some of the short fluff pieces that are easy to integrate into my ongoing campaign. I don't use the crunchy stuff for the most part put some have giving me ideas that I have integrated into my games.

2. New WotC Books

I don't need them, but still buy them when they come out because I enjoy reading through them. But I don't know when I'll ever play the adventures I already have. The forthcoming seafaring rules might find some use, but my current campaign is unlikely to need them and I have a set of third-party rules I really like. At this point, buying the expensive WotC books is starting to feel more like knee-jerk completionist purchasing. Yet, unless there is a book I really don't like the look of, I'll probably continue buying at least the crunchy book. So far I've only skipped adventures.

3. Digital Forms of Existing Content

I'll buy DnD Beyond versions of crunch books. I generally don't buy the adventure content on DnD Beyond but like that I can purchase character options from those books piecemeal. Lone Wolf Development finally released their Content Market and bought a bunch of content from that because it is helpful to have it in RealmWorks. Currently I'm running a campaign in the Lost Lands, however, which they'll not support. Kobold Press's Midgard setting is available, which is tempting me to switch settings after I'm done running my current Rappan Athuk campaign. Lost Lands will be available in World Anvil, but it is easier to switch campaign settings than platforms, especially since World Anvil doesn't have many of the features that I like in RealmWorks.

I expect spend on this to go down as I have most of what I need in digital format.

4. Movies, TV, and Books ABOUT the hobby

More of my money is going to books and video about or inspired by gaming. Example include the Art & Arcana book, kickstarted documentaries (Eye of the Beholder: The Art of Dungeons and Dragons, The Dreams in Gary’s Basement: A Documentary on Gary Gygax, SECRETS of BLACKMOOR: The True History of Dungeons & Dragons), the Critical Role cartoon, etc. I expect this to go down unless the success of Critical Role's kickstarter leads to a lot of copycats or if Netflix or someone runs with the idea (they already have Disenchantment and Dragon Prince, so not sure how many more show in that Genre they can profitably support). On the other hand, while I've tired of superhero films and show and have drastically decrease spending my time and money on them, there are a lot of great fantasy shows coming out. With the final season of Game of Thrones, the forthcoming Amazon Lord of the Rings series, a movie and ShowTime series based on Patrick Rothfuss's Kingkiller Chronicles, and more, I expect I'll be spending a good chunk of change on mainstream fantasy video content for some time to come.

I would like to save up and go to some out-of-state conventions, but I don't really have the time and the time and money I do have for vacations tends to go on non-gaming family trips.

Anyone else in the same boat? Where are you spending your hobby money?
 

pogre

Adventurer
I go through cycles of spending and not spending money on the hobby. Typically, while my campaign is rolling as it presently is, most of my money goes towards play aids and miniatures for upcoming foes and monsters. When a campaign ends I can go through lengthy periods of time not spending a dime. Then, something will catch my eye, I'll spend money on adventures, rules, etc and ramp up another campaign.

I am about halfway through Dungeon of the Mad Mage and I am finishing up the last few remaining monsters I need. When the campaign ends in a few months I'll see if I jump into another campaign or take another break.

Dwarven Forge Kickstarters are my weak spot. I usually drop a ton of cash on those no matter where I am at in my cycle.
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
I buy miniatures but unless I switch to a new edition I don't see any new book purchases on the horizon. Maybe more adventures down the line once they are finally defeated by Rappan Athuck but even then I'll probably run some classic D&D stuff.

Swords and Wizardry core + Tome of Horrors is a pretty complete game.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
...once they are finally defeated by Rappan Athuck...
If you are running Rappan Athuk, the party should be defeated multiple times. You must be talking about the player's finally being defeated and begging you for a new adventure location.

:)


My group is only in the first level of the Mouth of Doom. "This is much easier than I was expecting" said one player.

Boy are they in for a rude awakening when they get to the Dungeon proper.

My obituary list is looking to get filled.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I'm big on accessories and things to make my game better. I'm currently collecting all of Paizo's flip-mats (they are SO useful!) and I bought Art & Arcana.

If I spend money on Kickstarter, it's usually something really cool that's caught my eye. I don't buy much digital -- I'm very fond of physical stuff.
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
If you are running Rappan Athuk, the party should be defeated multiple times. You must be talking about the player's finally being defeated and begging you for a new adventure location.

:)


My group is only in the first level of the Mouth of Doom. "This is much easier than I was expecting" said one player.

Boy are they in for a rude awakening when they get to the Dungeon proper.

My obituary list is looking to get filled.
Yeah, they went in though the main entrance first. Well that party died via TPK later on, after a few early deaths. But they did it out in the graveyard outside via a bunch of ghouls. The new party went in via the mouth of doom. They are mostly done with level 2 at this point with only 3-4 deaths. :lol:

If they do throw in the towel and demand less perilous adventure it wouldn't be the first time. I ran this under 3.5 10 years or so ago and they were soundly whipped by level 3 of the dungeon proper and the campaign ended. With all the save or die in S&W its even more deadly the second time around.

I still hope to get a TPK via stirge. :]
 

uzirath

Explorer
Anyone else in the same boat? Where are you spending your hobby money?
Sometimes I wish I were in your boat! I have always been an RPG omnivore. I usually play a single system (D&D for my first 10-15 years, GURPS and variants for the remaining decades), but I love reading just about anything for any system and genre. My players would crack up if they knew where the inspirations for their fantasy adventures come from; I recall basing a tomb layout on the deck plan of a Traveller starship. If I go to a game store, I have a hard time not blowing my budget completely. As a result, I try to limit myself to the monthly Steve Jackson Games releases (which are reasonably priced) and another supplement per month. For the expensive D&D adventure hardbacks, I limit myself to one or two per year.

I am eagerly looking forward to Saltmarsh because that was one of my favorite AD&D adventures. I've modified it and used it in every edition thus far, and run a GURPS version for the Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game. It will be fun to see how they update this classic.
 

dragoner

Dying in Chargen
Anyone else in this boat? If so, what are you still spending money on?
Yes, I slacked off a couple of years ago after buying most everything for Mongoose Traveller 1e, after that and some other issues, I decided not to buy any 2e stuff from them. I am pretty flush with gaming, so I only have time to buy or read what seems relevant to be used in gaming. I have bought Mythras titles from The Design Mechanism, M-Space by Frostbyte, and various Cepheus Engine titles. I do keep an eye out, for settings in different systems that I can port in pieces to my own.
 
I am in a similar boat… Last year my awesome collection of RPG books was mostly lost due to a terrible flood and it would take years and tons of money to build it back. After that heartbreak I have become much more selective and these days it is hard for me to find products that really catch my attention.

During the first years of 5e I did but most of what was published but I stopped at SKT. I don’t feel attracted to what WoTC is publishing currently. I don’t think I´ll ever be able to run so long adventures and none of my players are so invested in the game as for needing many more options (races, classes, backgrounds, etc.).

I have bought a few books from LotFP and the only kickstarter I have backed is for Nahual.

It makes me very happy to see that these days there are many more publications but between my recent loss, the lack of time to play, and the few players I have available now I only buy books that I foresee that I can really use, or that are so amazing that justifies the purchase.

The positive side is that I am saving that money, but I would be glad to pay it if I could feel the joy I used to get before:(.
 

aramis erak

Explorer
The overwhelming dross of the d20 bubble really curbed me of a lot of spending.

I'm loathe to buy unless I love the franchise already, or really trust the designer. Or can skim it before buying.

Still, I spend a good bit... but not as freely nor as sight unseen as in the 90's.
 

DMMike

Game Masticator
I subscribe to D&D Beyond and don't see that changing.
+1 Hasbro point. Just for kicks, think about switching to the ENWorld Patreon?
Anyone else in the same boat? Where are you spending your hobby money?
Food and drink for Game of Thrones parties.

I've cast a pretty good anti-spending ward on myself. My RPG is super-easy to run and modify, so I don't need rulebooks. And, although I'd like to do some personal world-building, I have a video-game-bible that provides NPCs, maps, treasure, quests, and more. So I don't need adventure modules either. For everything else, I'm a member of a pretty awesome Internet bulletin-board...

I am in a similar boat… Last year my awesome collection of RPG books was mostly lost due to a terrible flood and it would take years and tons of money to build it back. After that heartbreak I have become much more selective and these days it is hard for me to find products that really catch my attention.
. . .The positive side is that I am saving that money, but I would be glad to pay it if I could feel the joy I used to get before:(.
I believe that was Poseidon giving you a chance to find RPG joy in a new way. Ever tried writing?
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
+1 Hasbro point. Just for kicks, think about switching to the ENWorld Patreon?
I've subscribed to ENWorld EN5ider from almost the beginning and have ever EN5ider article from #1.

I'm also a copper subscriber to the boards.

I don't subscribe to the general ENWorld Patreon, just felt like an extra subscription to track without providing anything I find compelling. Eventually, I expect that the copper/silver subscriptions to go away and for Patreon to replace that, but for now, I prefer the Copper/Silver subscription.
 

trancejeremy

Villager
The overwhelming dross of the d20 bubble really curbed me of a lot of spending.
I'm the opposite. What I loved so much about the d20 era was all the new people writing stuff, bringing in different ideas. The DIY aspect is what I love most about the OSR and ironically, I find somewhat lacking in 5e, thanks to DM's Guild allowing use of WOTC/D&D IP, rather than forcing people to come up with their own stuff. Sort of like people writing Star Trek or Star Wars fan-fiction, rather than original stories.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I'm the opposite. What I loved so much about the d20 era was all the new people writing stuff, bringing in different ideas. The DIY aspect is what I love most about the OSR and ironically, I find somewhat lacking in 5e, thanks to DM's Guild allowing use of WOTC/D&D IP, rather than forcing people to come up with their own stuff. Sort of like people writing Star Trek or Star Wars fan-fiction, rather than original stories.
I skill the d20 boom as I had stopped playing TTRPGs just as 2e came out and didn't start again until 5e. Yet, I have trouble squaring your observations with mine. While the may not be the same glut of material for 5e as there was during the d20 content boom, there is certainly far more than I could ever use. We have streaming shows funding hugely successful Kickstarters for new books. We have many 3rd-party campaign settings. There are many great creators on Patreon, there are some wonderful blogs, YouTube channels, and stuff published on DriveThruRPG. You have people making and sharing homebrew creations on DnD Beyond.

Admittedly, I wasn't there for the d20 boom, but I'm seeing lots of DIY, facilitated by powerful new communication and collaboration platforms.
 

Ralif Redhammer

Adventurer
I’m very glad we’re seeing more and more documentary work on the hobby. I’m currently in for Secrets of Blackmoor, Dreams in Gary’s Basement, and The Great Kingdom (if we ever see that one). The recently fulfilled Eye of the Beholder was so darn good.

My gaming spending has probably increased this year. I splurged on Beedle’ Grimm’s Saltmarsh set. And I’m going to both Origins and Gen Con (normally it’s an either-or deal). And next year is going to be Gary Con and Origins. If I had to give a causal factor, really, it’d be my brother and I egging each other on. He wanted to go to Gen Con this year, and I wanted to go to Gary Con next year. Origins is close enough for us to do that it’s a yearly tradition.

On the whole, though, my gaming spending has never been particularly extravagant. I try to support my FLGS, and I pick out the occasional reasonably-priced OOP book online, but generally keep my expenditures at a reasonable level. This year is probably a blip rather than a trend.

4. Movies, TV, and Books ABOUT the hobby

More of my money is going to books and video about or inspired by gaming. Example include the Art & Arcana book, kickstarted documentaries (Eye of the Beholder: The Art of Dungeons and Dragons, The Dreams in Gary’s Basement: A Documentary on Gary Gygax, SECRETS of BLACKMOOR: The True History of Dungeons & Dragons), the Critical Role cartoon, etc.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
[MENTION=30438]Ralif Redhammer[/MENTION]

I envy you, but I have hope. My eldest has been asking to go to comic and video-gaming conventions. I may not be able to make a family trip out of Gary Con, but Convergence (here in the Twin Cities) and perhaps a trip for a PAX may be in the cards.

Gary Con is the one I'm most interested in. Really hoping to make that one one of these years.
 

Ralif Redhammer

Adventurer
I’d been pushing to go to it for years now. It’s a splurge, and going to be a logistical pain (needing to both take a plane and rent a car). But it’s a chance to game with the hobby founders in Lake Geneva, the place where it started.

Gary Con is the one I'm most interested in. Really hoping to make that one one of these years.
 

darjr

I crit!
GaryCon is a blast! It’s also growing fast. I wouldn’t be surprised if they put a cap on attendance.

Also GameHoleCon is awesome and is one of the big three or four bucket list cons in my humble opinion.

I think the edition treadmill fatigue hits a lot of folks. Which makes 5es continued blockbuster growth even more amazing.
 

S'mon

Legend
Spent a bunch on everything produced for Primeval Thule when I started my new campaign in January. Very happy with purchases!

Of course that stuff mostly came out in 2015. I am not an early adopter.
 

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