Archery Full Round Attack

[Water Bob]

I'm sure this has probably come up before.

But...doesn't it seem logical to you that a bowman, using a Full Round action, should get two attacks in a round? Kinda-sorta like the fighter using a weapon in each hand?

 

[Dandu]

No.

 

[Axel]

How is it logical?! It takes a fair few seconds to draw an arrow from your quiver, "load" your bow, draw back and aim, then fire. Being allowed to do so multiple times within 6 seconds would be very very challenging...which is why only "super-hero" characters get to, starting at level 6.

 

[Dandu]

Or characters with Rapid Shot before level 6. But that's due to having lots of training, ie, a feat.

 

[Empirate]

Wouldn't it be logical for a fighter wielding a Greataxe (in two hands!) to also make two attacks per round? After all, two hands = two attacks, it seems...

 

[Water Bob]

Wouldn't it be logical for a fighter wielding a Greataxe (in two hands!) to also make two attacks per round? After all, two hands = two attacks, it seems...

You're acting a jerk, I see (for all to see, really), but it's simple math. If a character can shoot his bow and move, he's basically firing the bow in 3 seconds and moving the other 3 seconds.

Or, if a character is limited to one standard action, which is half a round, he can fire his bow.

It stands to reason, logically, that a character could fire his bow twice in 6 seconds.

 

[anest1s]

You're acting a jerk, I see (for all to see, really), but it's simple math. If a character can shoot his bow and move, he's basically firing the bow in 3 seconds and moving the other 3 seconds.

Or, if a character is limited to one standard action, which is half a round, he can fire his bow.

It stands to reason, logically, that a character could fire his bow twice in 6 seconds.

Two weapon fighting with one bow makes no sense. If you had 4+ hands then maybe...but you would still need 2 bows.

You can two weapon fighting with 2 crossbows btw. Or was it hand crossbows? But there is a loading them problem every next turn.

 

[Water Bob]

Two weapon fighting with one bow makes no sense. If you had 4+ hands then maybe...but you would still need 2 bows.

I'm not talking about using two bows, and maybe using the two-weapon rules as an example was a mistake.

I'm talking about rate of fire. What I'm saying is basicaly this: If an archer can fire his bow (standard action) and move 30' (move action), all in one combat round, doesn't it make sense that he could give up his move and fire his bow twice?

The other way to say it would be, what happens when an archer (lower than 6th level) fires his bow using a full-round action? He fires one arrow, right? I'm asking if it's logical that he should be able to fire two arrows during that time.

 

[anest1s]

I'm not talking about using two bows, and maybe using the two-weapon rules as an example was a mistake.

I'm talking about rate of fire. What I'm saying is basicaly this: If an archer can fire his bow (standard action) and move 30' (move action), all in one combat round, doesn't it make sense that he could give up his move and fire his bow twice?

The other way to say it would be, what happens when an archer (lower than 6th level) fires his bow using a full-round action? He fires one arrow, right? I'm asking if it's logical that he should be able to fire two arrows during that time.

I think its not only logical, but it is also what actually happens. I haven't played a ranger yet, and full attack wasn't an option for my scout...but I think thats the way it works...?

 

[Water Bob]

I think its not only logical, but it is also what actually happens. I haven't played a ranger yet, and full attack wasn't an option for my scout...but I think thats the way it works...?

As I understand the rules, you have to be 6th level in order to take a full-round bow attack and get two shots.

I was talking about using a full-round for to shots at 1st level, citing that a person can take two attacks with a weapon in each hand at 1st level, so why not allow a bow to do something similar.