Are you buying Dragon Magic?

Are you buying Dragon Magic?

  • I already own it

    Votes: 69 27.9%
  • I'm thinking about it

    Votes: 43 17.4%
  • I'm going to give this one a pass

    Votes: 115 46.6%
  • What's Dragon Magic?

    Votes: 20 8.1%

  • Poll closed .
Flipped thru the local bookstore's copy finding the title of "DRAGON MAGIC" to be a misnomer for there seemed to be a dearth of information regarding dragonic lore/etc utilized to augment and/or protect themselves, lairs and/or hoards; but rather is mostly a collection of dragon-related prestige classes.
Bottomline: moderately interesting, but the contents are barely related to the subject implied by the title.
 

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I'm passing. It seems to not have enough value for my game(s) to bother making a purchase and spending my (extremely limited) time going through it.

Crothian said:
No, in fact we've had very little on dragons.
Untrue. Just in the past couple of years (and all in the 3.5 era):

- Draconomicon
- Races of the Dragon
- Dragons of Faerun
- Dragon Magic

Not to mention:
- Gargantuan Black Dragon mini
- Colossal Red Dragon mini
- War of the Dragon Queen minis
- Rage of Dragon novels

which is more than we've seen in a considerable number of years.

I have no idea why you'd say such a thing.
 

I think the title thing is brilliant marketing. Your typical gamers (not hard-core gamers you are likely to find on this site who are obsessed with gaming like me ;) ) are in love with dragons and magic. They are the two coolest things that a typical social gamers loves about fantasy stuff. I love the way that they named the title.

Now, that doesn't mean I bought the book. I went to the local Barnes and Noble the other day and read it cover to cover. What I read - that's why I am going to buy the book! The book is good. Not PHB II or XPH good, but definately leaps and bounds over any of the Races of ____ books. I'd put it on par with the Complete line - just with more fluff and less crunch.

There is only one base class, and I think that's a good thing. I hope WotC continues on the themes of slowing done base class production. There are a few PrCs, but the book is certainly not dominated by them. I really love the fact that the book picked up on the variant class abilities section like the PHB II used. The new races left me a bit meh ... but then again I prefer to make up my own new races so that doesn't mean that they were bad.

All in all the fluff was enjoyable. I love Dragons. I love Magic. I'm not petty enough to be turned aside by some comment that was most likely meant to be funny and let it keep me from buying the book. But then again, much of my world is dragon influenced. So i was happy!
 

Arnwyn said:
Untrue. Just in the past couple of years (and all in the 3.5 era):

- Draconomicon
- Races of the Dragon
- Dragons of Faerun
- Dragon Magic

I have no idea why you'd say such a thing.

A few minis isn't much out of I have no idea how many minis and 4 books out of a sixty plus is not that many either. That's how I can say such a thing.
 

I wouldn't get too hung up on the origin of the name. In this case the origin was funny enough for WotC to talk about it, but I assure you how a book gets it's name is not the same as why a book is written. (Disclaimer -- I'm one of the authors of this book, and I had nothing to do with naming it. I am both biased in its favor and using second-hand information, though seeped in experience, so take my opinion only for what it's worth.)

If you see me in person sometime, ask me what Alien Anthology was originally going to be named and why it changed. Or, if you buy me a drink first, how Starships of the Galaxy got its name and what it almost was, due to marketing pressure. Marketing gives feedback, but it only gets used if it produces a good idea.

In "The Year of the Dragon," WotC was -going- to be looking for a number of Dragon releases. The fact that Dragon Magic draws on popular elements of the titles for popular books is marketing, not its entire reason for existing. If the people who decide what books get written, who are huge D&D fans as well as game writers, hadn't come up with an idea they liked, they wouldn't have approved this one. Instead you'd have gotten Dragon Kings, or Realms of the Draconic, or Dragonfire or soemthing. But most of the content would have been very similar, because these are the dragon-based ideas the guys who outlined the book wanted to see. And, given that we discuss dragon kings and dragons as analogies for elements of churches, we clearly didn't restrict ourselves to things with both "dragon" and "magic" in their description. We put together a solid concept, and followed it where we felt it logically went.

It's a good title. Its origin happens to be funny. That has no impact on the production value of the book or the thought and effort that went into it, which had the full cycle of ideas, outline, writing, development and editing, just like every other D&D book put out this year. The majority of people who bought it seem happy with it. Obviously if you don't need any more information about dragons, don't buy it! Just as if you had no interest in ocean adventuring, you shouldn't buy Stormwrack.

But don't think the book was less loved, thought out, or respected just because someone at marketing thought of the actual title.
 

Crothian said:
A few minis isn't much out of I have no idea how many minis and 4 books out of a sixty plus is not that many either.
It is, when it revolves around one narrow subject and haven't seen anything of the sort in many years (if ever).

But I digress - WotC has already clearly indicated that 2006 is the "Year of the Dragon", after all. Of course we'll see a lot, and that's already been amply proven.
 

Arnwyn said:
It is, when it revolves around one narrow subject and haven't seen anything of the sort in many years (if ever).

Can't be too narrow with 4 good sized books on the subject and little if any reprinted info. I don't have the FR book so I can't say if it does or not.
 

I picked up Dragon Magic mostly to keep my collection up to date. I have great respect for the authors, but I just didn't expect to find much in the book applicable to the sorts of campaigns I run/play in.

I'm delighted to say I was wrong. This is, in fact, the best WotC book released in months. There's something in it for everyone, and more than one suggestion that could (and in my case, probably will) spark entire campaigns.

It's probably not a book for everyone, but I think anyone who lets the origin of the title turn them off is really missing out on an excellent sourcebook.

(I was also amused to discover that I apparently worked on the book without realizing it. It seems that a spell I wrote for Complete Mage was printed here instead, and that was enough to give me an "additional design" credit. As a professional in a field that often isn't all that professional, I'd like to offer my most sincere appreciation to WotC for being that concerned about giving credit where it's due.)
 

I'm not buying it. This is because it has the word magic in it. I don't need more magic. Nothing against new books. I just prefer environment and world building books more.
 


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