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PF2 Are you moving from 5E to PF2?

darjr

I crit!
@Mistwell is right about DMSGuild. It is a viable lively option for more content. Everything from award winning and nominated cutting edge stuff, to add ons for existing WotC books and adventures.
 

Parmandur

Legend
@Mistwell is right about DMSGuild. It is a viable lively option for more content. Everything from award winning and nominated cutting edge stuff, to add ons for existing WotC books and adventures.
Let's face facts, it is straight up better than the magazines (though I still miss 90's magazines...).
 

Mistwell

Hero
I think a lot of people are not aware of all the one-off adventures WOTC has published on DMs Guild. A huge number of 4 hour adventures, which are good, and inexpensive, and which you can run independent of a larger campaign or as part of a larger campaign. WOTC puts them out to support Adventurers League, but I think they're missing the boat by not advertising them to the general population better. They are, essentially, Dungeon magazine continued.
 
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Xenonnonex

Explorer
What people are neglecting to mention though is Paizo's best efforts at adventure writing have been with their freelancers, their in-house crew is great at lore but remarkably mediocre at adventure design.
 

Matrix Sorcica

Explorer
I think a lot of people are not aware of all the one-off adventures WOTC has published on DMs Guild. A huge number of 4 hour adventures, which are good, and inexpensive, and which you can run independent of a larger campaign or as part of a larger campaign. WOTC puts them out to support Adventurers League, but I think they're missing the boat by not advertising them to the general population better. They are, essentially, Dungeon magazine continued.
What are some good ones?
 

Zaukrie

Adventurer
I read a bit more of the rules, and I am more interested than I was before. I have, so far, found combat in 5e kind of repetitive, w/o much interesting happening much of the time. But then, I do come at the game from a tactical perspective (and story too, but I do like battle tactics).
 

ajevans

Explorer
I'm an old guy (or at least I feel old) and I generally agree with you. I really like PDFs. However, I've been checking out D&D beyond recently and damn, it really is far superior to a PDF. I may just have to break out of this stone I'm set in and move into the 21st century!

D&D Beyond is pretty decent but having to pay twice for the same content makes me file it firmly under F*** Right Off!!
 

dave2008

Adventurer
D&D Beyond is pretty decent but having to pay twice for the same content makes me file it firmly under F*** Right Off!!
The is not entirely correct. There is a lot of free content on DND Beyond. I have to pay extra for PF2e PDFs anyway, I don’t see much different with Beyond. Besides, if I do move to Beyond, I would just buy it one Beyond, so no duplication. Other than the core books a prefer no more dead trees

Also, it is not the same content. There is a lot more available with Beyond than you get with a book or PDF
 

Schmoe

Explorer
I read a bit more of the rules, and I am more interested than I was before. I have, so far, found combat in 5e kind of repetitive, w/o much interesting happening much of the time. But then, I do come at the game from a tactical perspective (and story too, but I do like battle tactics).
I'm right there with you. Tactically interesting combat is a big selling point for me.
 

Imaro

Adventurer
I'm right there with you. Tactically interesting combat is a big selling point for me.
Can you point me in the direction of some AP reviews or reports because so far I've only been able to find either first impression reviews or reviews done after looking over the book.
 

Zaukrie

Adventurer
Even on the Paizo boards there aren't many in play reviews up yet. I'm kind of surprised. And, of course, those that have have devolved into edition wars and other things....
 

Zaukrie

Adventurer
When I looked at the core book, I also tried to look at the Bestiary in the store. Both copies were defective, with pages sticking together all over the place. Is this a common issue?
 

Haffrung

Explorer
Yawning Portal is full of stand alone adventures. In addition, the Adventurers League is FULL of official stand alone adventures, available on DMs Guild. Have you just not checked those out?
I have all the Yawning Portal adventures already from back in the day. Same with Saltmarsh.

What can I say - I'm fussy and I don't have endless time to sort the wheat the from the chaff. I find the great majority even of professional published RPG material to be mediocre at best. The stuff I have picked up on DM,s Guild doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

When I'm paying for RPG content, I don't just expect top-notch ideas and writing. Layout and presentation mean a lot to me as well. Few creative types are also skilled at content presentation.

Call me old-fashioned, but I find value in commercial publishers hiring only the best house talent and freelancers, and supporting them with professional layout, editing, and artwork. There may be a handful of books on DM's Guild that suite my preferences, but at an unappealing cost in time and effort finding it, not to mention the dollar cost of printing it.

I just think WotC fails to support GMs well, and instead outsources that job to amateurs, third-party publishers, and Youtube channels. And presumably it's a business decision (keep costs as low as humanly possible), rather than a hobby-driven choice. Paizo has shown an RPG publisher can remain a viable business while releasing setting material and DM support at a much higher tempo.

I want to give WotC my money. Instead, even though I play 5E, I'm spending most of my DM budget on Pathfinder, 3.X, and even 4E adventure and setting material, and converting it to 5E.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I have all the Yawning Portal adventures already from back in the day. Same with Saltmarsh.

What can I say - I'm fussy and I don't have endless time to sort the wheat the from the chaff. I find the great majority even of professional published RPG material to be mediocre at best. The stuff I have picked up on DM,s Guild doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

When I'm paying for RPG content, I don't just expect top-notch ideas and writing. Layout and presentation mean a lot to me as well. Few creative types are also skilled at content presentation.

Call me old-fashioned, but I find value in commercial publishers hiring only the best house talent and freelancers, and supporting them with professional layout, editing, and artwork. There may be a handful of books on DM's Guild that suite my preferences, but at an unappealing cost in time and effort finding it, not to mention the dollar cost of printing it.

I just think WotC fails to support GMs well, and instead outsources that job to amateurs, third-party publishers, and Youtube channels. And presumably it's a business decision (keep costs as low as humanly possible), rather than a hobby-driven choice. Paizo has shown an RPG publisher can remain a viable business while releasing setting material and DM support at a much higher tempo.

I want to give WotC my money. Instead, even though I play 5E, I'm spending most of my DM budget on Pathfinder, 3.X, and even 4E adventure and setting material, and converting it to 5E.
That's pretty old-fashioned.
 

Mistwell

Hero
I have all the Yawning Portal adventures already from back in the day. Same with Saltmarsh.

What can I say - I'm fussy and I don't have endless time to sort the wheat the from the chaff. I find the great majority even of professional published RPG material to be mediocre at best. The stuff I have picked up on DM,s Guild doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

When I'm paying for RPG content, I don't just expect top-notch ideas and writing. Layout and presentation mean a lot to me as well. Few creative types are also skilled at content presentation.

Call me old-fashioned, but I find value in commercial publishers hiring only the best house talent and freelancers, and supporting them with professional layout, editing, and artwork. There may be a handful of books on DM's Guild that suite my preferences, but at an unappealing cost in time and effort finding it, not to mention the dollar cost of printing it.

I just think WotC fails to support GMs well, and instead outsources that job to amateurs, third-party publishers, and Youtube channels. And presumably it's a business decision (keep costs as low as humanly possible), rather than a hobby-driven choice. Paizo has shown an RPG publisher can remain a viable business while releasing setting material and DM support at a much higher tempo.

I want to give WotC my money. Instead, even though I play 5E, I'm spending most of my DM budget on Pathfinder, 3.X, and even 4E adventure and setting material, and converting it to 5E.
Again, not sure what part of "official" you missed, but it's all professional, written by professionals, formatted professionally, etc.. I am NOT talking about general DMs Guild. I am talking about WOTCs official Adventures League DDAL adventures which are published on DMs Guild.

Maybe click on ANY link in the link above that you quoted? You will see the author is not "some dude" but "Wizards of the Coast".

Again, I think they've done a deep disservice not advertising these to the general public despite making them available for sale to the public. Only AL DMs seem to know about these. Even though they're exactly what non AL DMs have been asking for, for a while.

Here, check this out and tell me this is amateur hour stuff. LINK
 

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