Are you sick and tired of quoted movies during your D&D sessions?

I hate movie and TV quotes

Period.

If you don't have anything better to say than to repeat some worn, not-that-funny-when-new joke or one-liner, just be quiet. Zip it, or to cut to the chase, shut up.

Under no circumstances are TV commercials worth discussing. I’ve often thought there were only two types of people in the world: those that think TV commercials occasionally funny and consequently a worthy conversational topic, and those that simply can’t consider such a thing without laughing – bitterly.

I’d rather hear somebody talking about a boring dream they had last night than repeat robotically a manufactured Hollywood verbal “punctuation” of a cheesy scene. Or even worse, simply ignore the process of maturation and continue to quote Monty Python well past the collegiate years. How can people not cringe when hearing these barnacled quotes? What are you going to do next, pray, bust out a kegger and cram for an impending final? Do you want to live in a rental apartment forever, with tin pots and pans and a mildewed Futon resting on pile carpet, while Led Zeppelin (inevitably Led Zeppelin) blares in the distance?

People, you are gaming with human beings, your friends (presumably), and they deserve more from you than stale leavings of pop culture, which in itself is simply voracious, taking all, and giving so very little… so very little. Humans are capable of so much, and at the same time are so often bereft, or distanced from one another (and themselves), and when a chance comes to connect, to throw something out that might link to something genuine, it’s a misfortune to crush any real hope of achieving this by expressing something NOT of yourself (for that is what this sort of incessant quoting represents, indicating a deep lack of understanding, or perhaps it’s simply an artifact of fear, fear of saying something that might reflect upon internals, and there is nothing as glossy an shiny and ultimately forgettable as pop culture superficiality) – it’s worse than that, it’s a tragedy, it’s heartbreaking, this self-inflicted wounding. Don’t cover yourself with another’s presumed humor. Don’t strap on multiplicities of pop culture references, armoring yourself against any real involvement, protecting against what? What is to be lost, if a Monty Python quote is repressed, suppressed, swallowed and buried and in its place: anything. Surely you have a sense of humor too, so express it. Surely we, as a group, can laugh together, we can make our own entertainment, we well-educated wealthy Westerners, we are capable of these basic social achievements. Aren’t we? Shouldn’t we, in fact, insist upon it? Isn’t anything not contributing to the cause, isn’t anything forcing us away from being individuals to be avoided at all costs? Do you want to be a gaming group like every third gaming group, with the Python quoter, the guy that needs to shower more often, and the Ph.D who makes everyone feel like they are not indulging in some throwback vice?

Some people take comfort, I suppose, in cleaving to the expected. Some people, I suppose, want to be nothing except that which is expected, that which the culture produces. I don’t want that, I don’t want that in the people around me, I don’t want to see it in anyone else either. I want a rejection of the glossy way out, the easy joke, the distancing quote, the soul-suppressing urge to huddle oneself away somewhere inside, using television and movies and sports and politics as scaffolding for what passes as conversation, as social intercourse, while all the same wrapping oneself in those plush, easily available nearly sacramental wraps – hey, did you see the highlights? Did you hear what Oprah said? Hit? Pah, it’s a wound, simply a flesh wound… I hear these things and think of a charnel house, of rot, of endless possibility consciously discarded. I don’t like it. It depresses me. Don’t speak if you don’t have something to say that is OF YOU, not reflects some scrap of you through the wretched mirror of television or movies. We don’t need more universal topics of conversation. What we desperately need is a way to communicate, simply, and honestly, both compassionately and with understanding.
 

log in or register to remove this ad

two said:
What we desperately need is a way to communicate, simply, and honestly, both compassionately and with understanding.
Maybe you missed it, but this is a forum about roleplaying games, where we pretend we're beating up people and looting them to their britches (although with a prestidigitation to clean them up, I'd want to sell those, too). So far, we've been discussing the relative quotability merits of various Monty Python movies. While I appreciate your lengthy opinion of the degradation of modern American pop-culture, it seems a little misplaced in this thread. Off-topic might be a better place.

Back to the subject at hand, I think DM's shouldn't take offense when a player wants to cut up. The key word in "RPG" is game, and we do it to have fun. Part of the fun is immersion and character interaction, but just as important is player interaction. For groups of friends like mine, that means goofing off (because that's what we do off-table). That doesn't mean we can't have serious moments (like our trek through Carceri, where we turned off all the lights except one red bulb), but we also balance the "mad gaming" with some good levity, and funny quotes are one good way of achieving that. Another good way is "calls". There's nothing like telling the paladin he has to punch the princess in the face, now that he's said he does. I just want to have fun.
 

Gamers are people too

I don't subscribe to the "it's just gaming," philosophy. It's just gaming, it's no big deal, it's just us having fun, don't mind us. Let our brains rot.

Gaming is gaming. I don't think you need to take it as seriously as your take a perforated hernia, nor is it however deserving ghettoization.

We pretend we are beating up monsters. Day traders (often) are pretending that they are doing something other than gambling. Criminals (often) are pretending they are justified in their behavior. Actors are pretending to be, well, crack addicts with wonderful hair. The use of imagination, from reading to opera to whatever, does not signal to me something childish or silly. It can be quite scary, in fact, and very, very serious. No art is possible without imagination, after all.

Have fun gaming, have a blast. I simply don't see any reason to throw inane pop-culture quotes into the mix. Unless it is done as some sort of punishment.

See? I mean, they are not "funny quotes" as you put it. They just aren't. There is always something better to do with your time than quote quotes, and listen to things being quoted. I'm not into serious gaming, I'm not into pretentious crap, I am however opposed to nonsense bleatings, particularly when they further some sort of pop-culture paradigm that wallows in its own muck. Don't quote Gilligan's Island to me. Why instead aren't you angry? Why aren't you angry you spent so much time watching that junk instead of doing something, anything? Don't quote B movies to me, don't try to justify that waste you feel by pushing it onto me, outside of yourself. Yes, you watched far too much TV, too many bad movies. Accept it. It was a waste. Move on. It's not funny. Laughing at a car wreck -- not funny. Bringing the car wreck up time and again -- not funny. Keep them out of my game.

And if you insist on continuing to quote, well, that just hurts me, leads to me think: is that it? Is that all? Is this humor to you? Is this funny? Are you one of the drones? Are you happy to swill, and spew, and sometime in the forgotten future die? I don't want to think that of people, I don't like to face it, I don't want to see it. So, keep it to yourself, if you MUST think it. Don't depress me. Don't quote at my table. Don't.
 

I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more. If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes. ;)
 

You know, it's amazing how popular culture is, well, popular. :uhoh:

Anyway, I wouldn't know what to do with a game table that didn't drop a movie or game quote now and then (unless it's TOS Star Trek, I probably won't get a TV quote, but don't mind it).

Of course, the quote I'm most guilty of promulgating is, "Surrender or die in obscurity!" (Ramza Beoulve, Final Fantasy Tactics, ch. 1, sc. 2)

There's just something about it - not just "die," but "die in obscurity!" - that makes it so inappropriate in so many situations. :D
 



Well, when I started reading Two's post, I got angry and was going to post a serious rebuttal.

However, I decided Im not going to do it.

Ok, just a little bit: I am past college, I never drank, and Led Zeppelin? Inevitably? I dont own a single one of their songs. I tend toward an older crowd...Vivaldi, Holst, Grieg...the occasional Wagner.

And I like to quote Monty Python, Star Trek and anything else I enjoy watching. So there.
 

Hmmm.

I just wanted to find out if I was alone in being tired of having potentially good movies being ruined by excessive quoting.

It was a minor rant.
Not an over-the-top diatribe. <ahem>

I want gamers to quote things. I just want them to have more variety in their quotes.

It's fun to quote. Just not the same one over n over n over n over...

Now some movie quotes could never get old.

Like The Family Guy, The Simpsons, and Dumb & Dumber.
 

I tend to quote, liberally and paraphrasing, from the South Park movie. A lot.

Mostly in streams of invective after something unpleasant happens to my character, like, I get hit for a lot of damage for what my character would see as no good reason whatsoever. I mean, just because I'm in melee with you, sheesh... Mostly the same stream of invective, which the other players have actually almost gotten to miss it when I don't start cussing up a storm. (I don't do it all the time; I realize that were I to do that every time, I'd be shot. So, instead, I just cue off of the situation around the table)

Also, I've been known to use quotes from Red vs. Blue, though it's been so long since I've seen it, I'm forgetting most of them.

Otherwise...I don't quote that many movies or TV shows. Most of the time, the timing isn't right when I do remember it, and I don't remember it when it would be really good.

That seems to be the problem a lot of people have with quoting...it's used over-liberally and at inappropriate times.

Brad
 

Remove ads

Top