D&D 5E (2024) August 18th Tarrasque-sized D&D News (Poll)

[GMforPowergamers]

We've been playtesting it since 2019, though I expect a final UA big push within the next year similar to Xanathar's and Tasha's.

I would hope for BIG change test in UA... like "here is an alternate (insert class name)" or here are a list of alternate spells....

 

[Stormonu]

I'd be beyond shocked for an NFT announcement given how fast that bubble is bursting right now.

Ah, for the days of TSR and Spellfire/Dragon Dice, when they could jump on the deflating bounce palace to fall through into the swamp below...

 

[Mind of tempest]

Fire Giants have never really been like Vikings, Frost Giants are like that. But Fire Giants are more like Dwarves in culture and appearance, they outright value smithing skill over brawn. Like I am getting the impression you have never read about them.

regardless dnd giants need an overhaul badly.

I would hope for BIG change test in UA... like "here is an alternate (insert class name)" or here are a list of alternate spells....

nah it will be feats or spells at best maybe a race the days of big expansions are over.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Fire Giants have never really been like Vikings, Frost Giants are like that. But Fire Giants are more like Dwarves in culture and appearance, they outright value smithing skill over brawn. Like I am getting the impression you have never read about them.

Do you really want to go there? Have a dick-size competition about lore? Because I don't think it'll end well.

Dwarves are, in most D&D settings, cheaply Viking-themed (rather than Jewish-themed as Tolkien somewhat questionably intended).

Fire Giants tend to double-down on that, particularly because of their Norse mythology association (a lot of people know who Surtur was - even more nowadays). Sure they've also got a Dwarf association, but it ends in the same place.

 

[Jer]

I would hope for BIG change test in UA... like "here is an alternate (insert class name)" or here are a list of alternate spells....

This is only if the Anniversary Edition will involve big changes. I don't know that it will.

I wouldn't be surprised if instead of a 5.5e it's more like a 5.25e. Or a 5.1e. Or a 5.0 Service Pack 1 edition.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I wouldn't be surprised if instead of a 5.5e it's more like a 5.25e. Or a 5.1e. Or a 5.0 Service Pack 1 edition.

I would be pretty surprised if it's less than a 5.5E, I have to say. The changes they've made via Tasha's and MotM being implemented in the PHB (including re-writes of all existing PHB races) and MM, and the DMG presumably being re-written to not suck horribly alone would make the changes significantly bigger than 3.5E.

So you'd have to do revisionist history and make it so 3.5E was only 3.25E or whatever to justify that.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

regardless dnd giants need an overhaul badly.

Why I think they work fine in their current form.

Do you really want to go there? Have a dick-size competition about lore? Because I don't think it'll end well.

Dwarves are, in most D&D settings, cheaply Viking-themed (rather than Jewish-themed as Tolkien somewhat questionably intended).

Fire Giants tend to double-down on that, particularly because of their Norse mythology association (a lot of people know who Surtur was - even more nowadays). Sure they've also got a Dwarf association, but it ends in the same place.

Dwarves have Norse themes but are not Viking like themselves.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

nah it will be feats or spells at best maybe a race the days of big expansions are over.

I don't know about that... now I doubt I will get what I want, but even just a tasha mods + 1 or 2 other tweeks monk or ranger I can see...

Spoiler: what I want

split fighter into 3 classes based on the PHB 3 subclasses so you have a simple champion, a gish eldritch knight as a half caster and a complex warlord/warblade/swordsage/animeswordguy based on battle master... so you don't have to water down some or over do some just so you can fit the others in...

then

Break up the Wizard too... have 3 or 4 casters each get 2 or 3 of the school specilization
Warmage (abjur and evocer)
Beguiler (enchant and illusion)
summoner (conjur and necromancy)
Oricale (diviner and transmuter)

then break the spells up more too... take that 3 or 4 casters the sorcerer and the gish (from the above fighter) and give them all lists that make sense with a bunch of over lap but each class gets 2ish spells per level they can cast that only they get and 1 or 2 spells that only half or so the classes get and the rest they can all get... so you don't have 1 class constantly getting better and better with more and more spells

 

[GMforPowergamers]

This is only if the Anniversary Edition will involve big changes. I don't know that it will.

I wouldn't be surprised if instead of a 5.5e it's more like a 5.25e. Or a 5.1e. Or a 5.0 Service Pack 1 edition.

i am still hopeing for 6e but you may be right... but I want to know this month

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Dwarves have Norse themes but are not Viking like themselves.

Except that in virtually all art since the 1980s* Dwarves have been depicted with stereotypically Viking-themed stuff (since LotR there's often some extra blockiness to it too, but it's still usually Viking-y). And they Norse names.

Is Dwarf culture like that? No. But that's not my point. I'm not doing a cultural analysis on a monster that looks like a viking, is called a viking name, lives in a viking-looking castle, and so on. Quacks like a duck...

* = I do like stuff like that PF2 supplement with an African theme where they go way broader on this stuff, and get away from that boring Viking-ness.