fearsomepirate
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BG 1&2 have occasional cutscenes where the main character narrates a summary of past events and usually some dream he had. It would be weird to have those in present tense.
Depends what you mean by "high". Would consider myself a fairly hardcore Baldur's Gate fan, but I have only actually completed the game about four times. I've only actually completed Pathfinder: Kingmaker once, but I have 789 hours logged on Steam. There aren't enough hours in a lifetime to play this type of game through "lots" of times.
I did see a statistical analysis (sorry I don't have the reference) that a small majority of players of games of this type never reach the end at all, with most of the rest completing it once. The number of players logging multiple completions was in the less than 1% bracket.
Most folks would concider 4 times alot.
*They are wedded to the first person past tense narration though
Ugh! Why?! It is so off-putting!
Swen Vincke said:There’s several reasons we’re doing it this way. Of course there are story reasons but it also allows you to get closer to your character; their thoughts, their feelings and moments of introspection allowing you to truly understand their motivations. We’ve experimented with several styles when starting development but this was the one that at the end of the day stood out and we’re actually quite excited by what we can do with it. It turned out to be an excellent way of allowing players to tell their own story and role-play their character on a deeper level. I think it’s a wonderful tool for role-playing and story telling and when you’re playing it’s like you’re narrating your own adventure.
Yes, but by putting it in the present tense, it feels more immediate, like you're reading something that is actually happening currently rather than something that happened in the past.???
But it did happen in the past!
I did read his reply. I think most of it was referring to first person instead of third, rather than the tense. If the opening is past tense because your character is retelling it to someone later in the campaign, but the majority of the campaign is in the present tense, I think I could live with that. But if I have to go through 100+ hours of gaming with all my character's active responses being phrased in the past tense, that's going to drive me nuts.If you read over Swen's actual reply (#10 over here) to the question about the past tense (e.g. "I said that was enough. More goblins could be coming"), there's something that a lot of folks are missing, which I'll put in bold...
I'm with you on this one! People keep defending it like it's normal, but I've played a lot of CRPGs and I've never encountered this narration style before. I also find it weird and off-putting. I know they probably won't, but I hope they change it.Yes, but by putting it in the present tense, it feels more immediate, like you're reading something that is actually happening currently rather than something that happened in the past.
When I play a CRPG, I want to feel like I'm doing something that's actually happening currently.
I did read his reply. I think most of it was referring to first person instead of third, rather than the tense. If the opening is past tense because your character is retelling it to someone later in the campaign, but the majority of the campaign is in the present tense, I think I could live with that. But if I have to go through 100+ hours of gaming with all my character's active responses being phrased in the past tense, that's going to drive me nuts.
Sure, when you play D&D it is happening in the present, so you narrate it in the present tense. But when you do a recap it happened in the past, so you should use the past tense. You don't want it to "feel more immediate" because it isn't immediate. Past tense exists for a reason - to show something happened in the past.Yes, but by putting it in the present tense, it feels more immediate, like you're reading something that is actually happening currently rather than something that happened in the past.
Nope.BG 1&2 have occasional cutscenes where the main character narrates a summary of past events and usually some dream he had. It would be weird to have those in present tense.
Coran is killed off in BG2 (as are Serafina, Tiax, Xzar and Monty and many others). Edwin can be assumed to have died of old age, after Elminster kicked his butt and stripped her of her power (ToB epilogue). Viconia may be dead or have returned to the underdark depending on which epilogue you got.Minsc and Boo are around, Viconia should be around, Edwin could be around, Coran is around, Aerie is around. Xan should be around, Jan should be around, Kivan should be around.
A fair number of characters could show up.