Battlestar Galactica:Season 2 7.22.05; Part 1 NSCR

[John Crichton]

He needlesssly endangered the fleet in episode 7 or so, when he hung around the area Starbuck crashed in. For ages. Burning up tons of fuel (over half their reserves). To save one person while massively endangering 50,000 people. He had a choice, and he needlessly endangered the colonial fleet on purpose.

Oh, right.

But that was emotional and foolish (they go hand in hand). He wasn't trying to fight Cylons at that point. He was trying to save his "daughter."

 

[John Crichton]

Either way things are going to go from bad to worse this season because neither Adama or Roslin are in charge now...

I'm pretty sure next episode we are going to see how things are going to be disastrous.

I don't think Adama is all about fighting, because during the first season Laura Roslin has generally favoured some of the more violent solutions. Such as the prison riot, where she didn't even want to negotiate, or the fact that she ordered the execution of the Leoban model cylon. Adama is after all the son of a civil rights lawyer so that does influence a bit of his thinking, though disbanding that independant tribunal sort of goes against supporting civil rights. For one thing I'd say that the fleet needs both of them, as we're probably going to see through the rest of the season.

I'd say your well reasoned logic is getting in the way of a good spat.

Anywho, I pretty much agree with this. And to echo what has been said before, it's what makes the show compelling. Honestly, I'm still waiting for this season to get good. And by good I mean getting the Old Man back on his feet. This week's ep looks to be lots of fun.

And to note, just like Farscape, Buffy, Firefly, B5, etc this show's average is better than 99% of the stuff on the air.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I don't think Adama is all about fighting...

Now, he isn't. My point was that, whe Roslin first became president, Adama didn't care about the civilians at all so her resigning would have put him in charge...and he would have just left them there.

Adam has, thankfully, changed. It will be interesting to see what happens when he wakes up, though.

 

[Staffan]

The President should have stepped down as soon as she found out she was sick.

As I recall it, when the mini-series started, she (still just Secretary of Education at the time) was on her way to meet with the president and tender her resignation on account of her illness. Then the feces made contact with the ventilation system, and she, who was like 25th in the order of succession, found herself president of Humanity (the 50,000 that's left of it anyway). Given that there wasn't really anyone left, she stayed on as president. She's also taken steps to make sure that there's a new order of succession if she dies before the election (of course, making Baltar president wouldn't be the best thing possible...).

 

[fett527]

Now...Adam has, thankfully, changed. It will be interesting to see what happens when he wakes up, though.

I am awaiting the aftermath of that with much anticipation. I hope he's still the same.

 

[RaceBannon42]

This is the best show on Television IMO. By quite a wide margin. I come down on the Adama side of things. For the most part the decisions he makes are one that I think I would make in his shoes. Roslin is not the duely elected president of the 12 colonies. She just happed to be 43rd in line of succesion. Not that Zarek or Baltar would be any better. She does feel that she is doing what is best for the fleet, as does Adama. Both of them have shown poor judgement. Roslin in ordering colonial one not to abandon rescue efforts when the cylons showed up, even though she was in effect only dooming everyone on her ship as well as those who couldnt be rescued. Adam in origianlly wanting to return Galactica to the fight after rearming on Ragnar station.

Cant wait for tonights episode!

 

[Wolf72]

slightly off topic ...

I just caught some of the original BSG episodes on sci-fi ... I still liked the characters, still liked the special effects, still liked the uniforms, and thought most of the ships shown were still pretty cool.

sure it was a wee bit campy, but overall not that bad ... I wonder if they used the original BSG as a base for the new one ... in the way the Cylons may have evolved and changed, there was some scenes where it seemed like the Cylon intelligence failed in it's logic ... almost like a lesson learned when compared to the new cylons.

The Cylons have a plan, I just hope that the Humans have a chance of really screwing it [the plan] up.

can't wait for tonight!

 

[Sir Brennen]

Adama is after all the son of a civil rights lawyer so that does influence a bit of his thinking, though disbanding that independant tribunal sort of goes against supporting civil rights.

I'm not sure if I agree with this... the tribunal, after all, was crossing the line with their witch hunt, and disbanding them was actually protecting civil rights. The fact that it came from someone in uniform just makes that point harder to see (and shows Adama using military clout to support his humanitarian ideals.) This is just another great example of the paradoxes written into the characters, exposing and subverting many of the assumptions of the audience.

Even the coup was an attempt to "protect" the civilians from the actions of the president. It wasn't a power grab. Though Tigh's wife might turn it into one...

 

[Fast Learner]

A note on Roslin stepping down: imo it's a very good thing that she didn't step down. At least with her, someone in a truly legal position is there to counter Adama (which, early on, a lack of which would have doomed humanity as BSG went off to fight an unwinnable war, leaving the shreds of humanity helpless). Even being Secretary of Education and all that, someone in charge based on the old law is key to making things work early on.

New elections are, of course, entirely appropriate.

 

[TanisFrey]

I am glad to notice in this epsoid that the writers have returned slightly to the speech paterns with unusual curses like the BSG(1978). With the use of Frak, this makes them like us but just slightly different development.