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Best Superhero

Best Superhero

  • Batman

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Superman

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Spider-man

    Votes: 18 22.5%
  • Iron Man

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wonder Woman

    Votes: 4 5.0%
  • Hulk

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • Some other choice, you oddball!

    Votes: 32 40.0%

  • Total voters
    80

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Snarf Zagyg

Sir Fang's Dentist
Define it any way you want!
Well, in the Arrowverse (RIP Salmon Ladder), it is defined as being someone incredibly attractive, who also happens to inhabit a world of diverse and attractive people with diverse genders and sexualities.

There are worse things. Did I mention the whole ... attractive part? I mean, in all the multiverse, with all the Earths, it's funny how all them have drop-dead gorgeous people everywhere and every location on every earth strangely resembles Vancouver.
 
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Of those listed, I went with Spider-man. I recently read the first Epic collection of the earliest Spider-Man stories and they are absolutely on fire. Lee/Ditko are at the top of their game here. Compared to the other comics of the time, even superheros I like more (like Thor and Dr. Strange), the writing and art and character designs are so darn good.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I don't particularly care for Batman. All the rest are wonderful characters (or, at least, have been so in the right hands, which is good enough for me).

My vote for best on that list goes to Spidey. He's the one on the list that's actually a character that feels representational to your average nerd comic book reader.

Off that list, I have a soft spot for Captain America.
 

BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
I'm a Batman guy. let me explain.

As a kid I idolized Superman. He was the strongest. He couldn't get hurt. Things I wanted when I to be was a child.

When I was 8. Batman the Animated Series premiered and I saw a hero that was not the strongest, that was consistently hurt, bet kept going on to fight anyway my devotion shifted immediately.

Unfortunately most recent Batman stories have really paled in comparison to a children's cartoon form the 90s. I've come to love a lot of things about other super heroes but that Batman (always in my mind voiced by Kevin Conroy) has stuck with me.
 

Campbell

Relaxed Intensity
I don't particularly care for Batman. All the rest are wonderful characters (or, at least, have been so in the right hands, which is good enough for me).

My vote for best on that list goes to Spidey. He's the one on the list that's actually a character that feels representational to your average nerd comic book reader.

Off that list, I have a soft spot for Captain America.
Batman is weird. I enjoy reading Bat books, but not for Bruce. Everyone around him (villains and allies) are way more interesting as characters.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Sir Fang's Dentist
I'm a Batman guy. let me explain.

As a kid I idolized Superman. He was the strongest. He couldn't get hurt. Things I wanted when I to be was a child.

When I was 8. Batman the Animated Series premiered and I saw a hero that was not the strongest, that was consistently hurt, bet kept going on to fight anyway my devotion shifted immediately.

Unfortunately most recent Batman stories have really paled in comparison to a children's cartoon form the 90s. I've come to love a lot of things about other super heroes but that Batman (always in my mind voiced by Kevin Conroy) has stuck with me.
Batman is complex, which makes him fascinating. He contains multitudes.

You can look to the camp-inflected Batman (BOOM! POW!) or the TAS Batman, or Batman Beyond (still cool), or 80s Miller Batman, or the Nolan take on Batman.

Batman speaks to something deep within us, at different times, in a way that I do not think any other character does. There are particular iterations of characters I love from comics (Alan Moore Swamp Thing, or certain Daredevil runs, or early 80s Teen Titans, or even the DC New Frontier series ....) or film (Downey's indelible take on Iron Man, or Hemsworth's "reboot" of Thor in Ragnarok) or TV even (Legion) ....

But Batman is always there, always being reinvented. There is a Batman for everyone. Well, everyone except Ben Affleck I guess. Sorry, Ben.
 

BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
I have a confession: I watched all of Winter Soldier twice and I can't remember anything from that movie still. I remember more from my one time watching the Avatar movie with James Cameron than I remember Winter Soldier.
I didn't get that one. Boring.

I barely watched the MCU until I had Disney+ briefly.

Best ones were first Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, one of the Thor movies, first Ironman and the first avengers.
Man Winter Soldier might be my favorite. "the government is always watching and could at any time use sudden an horrible violence on it's own population" is a theme that struck a chord with me.

I've always felt that Captain America was at his best when the ideals he stood for were at odds with the government of the very country that is in his moniker. But I can easily see why that would not be of interest to me if I hadn't been raised to pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA.
 


BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
Batman is weird. I enjoy reading Bat books, but not for Bruce. Everyone around him (villains and allies) are way more interesting as characters.
I definitely think Batman has the best Rogues gallery. But I love when they delve into his own broken psyche.

I remember in Scott's Snyder's run on the Batman Comic where he had Bruce in a letter to Catwoman talk about the fact that he recognizes that dressing up in a Halloween costume and beating villain's into submission with his fists is not something a grown man would do. Something stunted in him when he watched his parents die. He's still that kid living a kid's dark power fantasy.

I also loved how in Mask of the Phantasm the scene where a young Bruce newly fallen in love is at his parents grave begging their shades to let him abandon his quest for justice so he can marry a girl and be happy. And the terrible tragedy that that is of course what his parents would want for him but he is too broken to see it. The opera of it always gets to me.
 


Asisreo

Archdevil's Advocate
You have to go with the first and the best. Superman.
I don't know too much about superheroes, but was superman the first? The oldest being I'd classify as a superhero would be Gilgamesh. But I guess superhero is a loose term. Is beowulf a superhero? Or Sherlock Holmes? Do you have to be above human limit? If so, batman is technically not a superhero, depending on the issue. How close to a god can you be without being considered just a god? Thor's both a superhero and a god.
 

I think Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth is one of the greatest works in comics, for that very reason. And the jaw-dropping Dave McKean art, for that matter.

Though, as far as rogues galleries go, I think Spider-Man's is top stuff, too. At a time when lots of superheroes were fighting communists and varying sorts of underground dwellers and aliens (the early Avengers stories are filled with these sorts of filler villains), Spider-Man right off the bat had Dr. Octopus, The Lizard, The Vulture, Mysterio, Kraven, The Sandman, The Green Goblin, and many others that are absolutely iconic, to this day.

I definitely think Batman has the best Rogues gallery. But I love when they delve into his own broken psyche.
 

BookBarbarian

Expert Long Rester
I think Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth is one of the greatest works in comics, for that very reason. And the jaw-dropping Dave McKean art, for that matter.
Absolutely. One of my favorites.
Though, as far as rogues galleries go, I think Spider-Man's is top stuff, too. At a time when lots of superheroes were fighting communists and varying sorts of underground dwellers and aliens (the early Avengers stories are filled with these sorts of filler villains), Spider-Man right off the bat had Dr. Octopus, The Lizard, The Vulture, Mysterio, Kraven, The Sandman, The Green Goblin, and many others that are absolutely iconic, to this day.
Good call on Spider-Man rouges. I think my favorite villains are the ones that don't start out as the hero's enemy but instead have a legitimate beef with a 3rd party and get lost and take it too far requiring the hero's intervention. Mr Freeze, Clayface, The Sandman, even Black Panther's Killmonger and the like all come of as more complex and sympathetic this way. Batman and Spidey seem to have the most of these.
 

Tonguez

Legend
I have a confession: I watched all of Winter Soldier twice and I can't remember anything from that movie still. I remember more from my one time watching the Avatar movie with James Cameron than I remember Winter Soldier.
I liked the Winter Soldier, it think they did well to make it more Spy Thriller than Superhero, which was a good angle to take with the hero of red white and blue

Well, in the Arrowverse (RIP Salmon Ladder), it is defined as being someone incredibly attractive, who also happens to inhabit a world of diverse and attractive people with diverse genders and sexualities.

There are worse things. Did I mention the whole ... attractive part? I mean, in all the multiverse, with all the Earths, it's funny how all them have drop-dead gorgeous people everywhere and every location on every earth strangely resembles Vancouver.
Yeah but thats the CW as a whole though - Beautiful young people full of angst and the older but still attractive older people they interact with.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Sir Fang's Dentist
Yeah but thats the CW as a whole though - Beautiful young people full of angst and the older but still attractive older people they interact with.
Maybe that's the CW as a whole, but I can maintain some semblance of nerd cred by watching the Arrowverse.

"I'm watching all these incredibly attractive people fall in and out of romantic entanglements for the superhero plots, fan service, and the possibility that they might show an empty crate that says Gleek (superfriends 4eva)! Really!"

I am very believable.
 


FaerieGodfather

Aberrant Druid
Supporter
The Superior Octopus. It's right there in his name! He's not my favorite Spider-- he comes after Gwen and Kaine on that score-- but he's one of the few superheroes who is more concerned with making the world a better place than merely preventing villains from making it worse. He's too cynical to get what he wants and too arrogant to see that... but that only enhances the sheer joy of watching a superhero do something other than reinforce the status quo that created all of his enemies.

As an added bonus, with both the Superior Octopus and Mister Sinister operating out of San Francisco and the latter becoming a future Spider-Man villain in Renew Your Vows, I really want to see a rolling battle between them that leaves thousands of corpses in the streets... with zero casualties.
 
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