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I love Dragonslayer and Tremors! Dragonslayer has one of my favourite dragons in cinema, and it is where the go-motion technique was perfected.

And Tremors is just so much fun. It is a horror-light film. It also contains one of my favourite camera tricks:


It goes by so fast, your eyes don't even register it as a camera trick. That's a whip pan from live action to a miniature, to make it seem like the actors and the miniature are in the same room.
 

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The rec room line is GOLD!

Indeed. Plus that comedic pan to the gun rack is one of my favorite visual gags in a movie. When you see this movie for the first time, you are lead to believe that Burt and his wife are done for. But as soon as they reveal the huge rack full of guns, the tone of the scene, and the expected outcome, change instantly. It is just a wonderful example of subvertion of expectation in a movie. It really is quite clever.
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
You owe it to yourself to watch the original. The CGI may be a bit dated now, but it is a fantastic movie. Robin Williams is great in it, and the movie has a lot of heart.
Thing is, that'd mean watching Robin Williams for an hour and a half, and he's one actor who - on screen* - has just never appealed to me in the least for whatever reason.

* - off-screen, as the voice of the genie in Aladdin, he was great.
 

Thing is, that'd mean watching Robin Williams for an hour and a half, and he's one actor who - on screen* - has just never appealed to me in the least for whatever reason.

* - off-screen, as the voice of the genie in Aladdin, he was great.

So you have never cared for any of his serious work either? He even played a credible villain a time or two.
 


Jumanji is one of the movies where he shows a lot more of his range as an actor. The movie is grounded by his performance. Amongst all the crazyness, he lends a more serious tone in several key scenes.
 

Ryujin

Hero
Jumanji is one of the movies where he shows a lot more of his range as an actor. The movie is grounded by his performance. Amongst all the crazyness, he lends a more serious tone in several key scenes.
He was a stand-up comedy genius and I love most of his movies, but I'd have never wanted to direct him.
 

He was a stand-up comedy genius and I love most of his movies, but I'd have never wanted to direct him.

Well, to be more specific. I think he really shows some of his acting chops in the following scenes. Spoilers for those who haven't seen Jumanji.

When he explains to the kids the horrors that the game contains, and warns them not to take it lightly.

When he finds out his father loved him very much, and ran his own business into the ground trying to find his son.

Especially in the latter scene he gives a powerful performance.

I also like his work in What Dreams May Come, which is a polarizing movie that a lot of people seem to have very strong opinions about.

He's also great in Mrs Doubtfire, another movie that deserves special mention for being a lot better than it should be. You see, my parents had a divorce shortly before Mrs Doubtfire came out. As a young kid it is very difficult to understand why your parents can't be together any more. But Mrs Doubtfire is able to be honest about it, and explain it in a beautiful way, without a cliché Hollywood ending. At the end of the movie, the divorced parents don't get back together. And that's often how it goes in real life.


In one of the final scenes of the movie, Robin Williams basically directly addresses kids watching the movie, and it is so well written.

It's a shame that arguably one of the best acted scenes in the movie was cut:


To any kid who has ever experienced their parents going through a divorce, this is exactly what it is like. Both actors deliver a fantastic performance here. And I also love how the scene is directed, starting from the point of view of the kids, then to a view down the stairs, and then a close up. It really is a shame we lost Robin Williams so early, since he was a lot more than just a comedian, as this scene shows.
 
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Gradine

Final Form (they/them)
Riverdale: This is one of those very polarizing shows. Some people completely deplore this show, but for those who like it, it should not work, its crazy....bonkers really, with a plot that looks like three writers got black out drunk in a room one night and then picked up the pieces of the stuff they thought was too out there. And yet....its just works somehow, and its insanely engaging. Its very hard to explain.
The one reason this show works is that there is no status quo. The pacing is... frankly, intoxicating is the word I'd use. And they always, ALWAYS escalate.

Archie Season 1: I have to choose between football and my music. Also, I'm sleeping with my music teacher, so that's drama

Archie Season 3: I just broke out of juvie during an illicit underground prisoner boxing match, and I have to flee to Canada because my girlfriend's drug kingpin father wants me dead but I just got mauled by a freaking BEAR

It should be noted that Archie's arcs are almost always the least important part of the show at any given time. The rest of Season 3 is basically "what if the D&D satanic panic was real?" And that's not even including the cult/organ farm.

This show is the best kind of buckwild. It's perfect. It makes no sense, nothing makes any sense, what the hell are they even doing? It's perfect.

Dear CW: Where's my gritty reboot of the Hex Girls?
I also like his work in What Dreams May Come, which is a polarizing movie that a lot of people seem to have very strong opinions about.
Robin Williams was an incredible talent and the world is a significantly worse place without him in it. Insomnia is an underrated little title that shows off his darker chops. That said, WDMC is quite possibly the worst film I've ever scene, and thinking about anything in it makes me beyond angry. And the acting, directing, and especially design and cinematography at all top notch too. It's just... they make so many wrong choices along the way. Ugh.
 

Gradine

Final Form (they/them)
As for the OP, one movies springs immediately to mind: Real Steel

Rock'm Sock'm Robots: The Movie? Jerkass father figure and precocious child on a road trip. Like, even if the robot fights are cool, which 9/10 times is going to be phoned in CGI abominations in movies like these, the rest of the movie should be an utter tedious disaster. But they decided to make a good movie. The fights are awesome. Hugh Jackman + smartass kid is something we now know is a winning combination, but it was a gamble back then and darn if they didn't both come off as charming as hell
 


MGibster

Legend
Role Models (2008) starring Stiffler from American Pie and Paul Rudd about two energy drink salesman sentenced to community service for some offenses. That community takes the form of each one of them becoming mentors to two boys in a Big Brother type organization. I'm not saying it's a great movie, but it was much better than it had any right to be and Jane Lynch was just delightful as always.
 

MGibster

Legend
Is Demolition Man good though? It's certainly enjoyable . . . can a film be not-good yet enjoyable? If so, that's Demolition Man!
I tend to judge movies based on what they're trying to accomplish. Demolition Man tried to be a good action movie with some comedic elements (the three shells) and they absolutely nailed it. Cobra (1986) also starring Sylvester Stallone is an action movie and it's just plain terrible. It's not even good by action movie standards.
 

Undrave

Hero
Speaking of Robin Williams, I'm surprised Hook worked so well! Not the best movie ever but it's still flled with the same sort of charm an animated movie would have. I'd rather have that kind of live action take on classic characters than whatever Disney's doing lately...

Is Demolition Man good though? It's certainly enjoyable . . . can a film be not-good yet enjoyable? If so, that's Demolition Man!
The term for a movie that's 'not-good yet enjoyable' would be nanar .
Be careful not to confuse the folks in the US who do not have access to that. lol

Star is the Disney+ section for normal, adult-aimed movies that is only available outside the US.
So Star is just what you guys get on Hulu??
Dear CW: Where's my gritty reboot of the Hex Girls?
Speaking of, it's surprising how many of the Scooby Doo movies are genuine good fun! It's kind of a gamble but the characters are just so archetypical at this point that the movies never have to waste time introduce the Scooby Gang and can just give us a solid cast of secondary character and a fun adventure. Scooby Doo & KISS : Rock & Roll Mystery and Scooby Doo & Batman, The Brave and the Bold are favorites of mine. I hear Moon Monster Madness is excellent too.

And as for something to bring to this...hmm... Down Periscope? Kelsey Grammer as a maverick submarine captain? Really?! Rob Schneider's best role somehow?!

How about Thunderbolt Fantasy? A glove-puppet show made in 2016 by masters of the craft from Taiwan written by a Japanese writer responsible for the Fate franchise, and with character design influenced by the Nendoroid company is somehow an AMAZING wuxia franchise?! And can be ridiculously bloody?!

It's mindblowingly good and way more straightforward than Uroboshi's other works. You could easily mine that first season for a DnD adventure, for exemple...
 
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