Bow of true arrows - to good to be true

[mkletch]

The Manyshot feat does say only one attack roll. However, I really hope that at some point Wizards comes out with some clarification on how it is used and what applies to what with it.

You make one attack roll, several arrows hit if successful. Only one of them gets your 'precision' damage, which I would rule as anything restricted to 30' range.

-Fletch!

 

[Thanee]

You just say that because it's not available for your elf cleric...

My elf cleric has use magic device!

Bye
Thanee

 

[Caliban]

manyshot says all arrows use the same atack roll....

*shrug* That's one I have no qualms about rule 0'ing.

 

[Dr_Rictus]

There's very little you can do with a bow of true arrows out of a general combat that you can't do more cheaply with a wand of true strike.

 

[1337 h4xor]

Well, if anything is broken in this combination, than it is either Hunter's Mercy or Manyshot (or both, well it's probably both)!

Bow of True Strike is nice, not much more.

Now a Bow of Hunter's Mercy for the same cost... THAT would be broken!

Bye
Thanee

lol, it's a bow useable by only a single class in the entire game, that sounds pretty restricted to me.

 

[Darklone]

lol, it's a bow useable by only a single class in the entire game, that sounds pretty restricted to me.

Restricted is not the same as balanced.

 

[mkletch]

lol, it's a bow useable by only a single class in the entire game, that sounds pretty restricted to me.

Command word item...

-Fletch!

 

[Shard O'Glase]

True Strike only affects one attack roll, and even with Multi-shot, it's still 4 seperate attack rolls.

And I would rule that Hunter's Mercy also only affects one arrow, if I was the DM.

I'd rule that hunters mercy isn't in my game. Compare it to the feat in MoTW, I think its called power critical. It allows you once per day for a weapon chosen when you purchase the feat to call i advance a critical threat. If you hit whether or not it would crit it is considered a critical threat, if it was a crit anyways hey you jsut wasted your once a day ability. It's pre-reqs are I beleive improved critical and a +12BAB. Yeah a 1st level ranger spell that is better than a +12bab feat I'm going to let into my games.

Manyshot seems almost as bad, I don't have the book its from so I don't know exactly what the feat does, but a single attack launches multiple arrows, on one attack roll and I've seen people emntion 4 extra arrows. (I'm asuming if you full attack something like 40 arrows isn't launched) Yeah lets basically give somoene the rogues sneak attack ability on a single attack for a feat instead of having to spend 9 levels in the class. Or bascially give a full attack while someone is performing a shot on the run, but its not at the crappy full attack bonuses.

 

[kreynolds]

That bow was made for assasinations and fast assaults. You use it with poison, and it works as an excellent delivery system. Or use it with fire arrows, and set a structure on fire.

Not only is it useful for poison delivery, but I also think it happens to be a sorcerer's or wizard's best friend. It's extremely handy when you're out of ranged spells. Or, if you want to precisely pepper a battlefield with darkness spells, this bow is perfect for that. Also, since even 20th level sorcerers and wizards only get 2 attacks per round, they aren't sacrificing much by using the bow, which means it really makes that single attack roll count.

 

[Rackhir]

IManyshot seems almost as bad, I don't have the book its from so I don't know exactly what the feat does, but a single attack launches multiple arrows, on one attack roll and I've seen people emntion 4 extra arrows. (I'm asuming if you full attack something like 40 arrows isn't launched) Yeah lets basically give somoene the rogues sneak attack ability on a single attack for a feat instead of having to spend 9 levels in the class. Or bascially give a full attack while someone is performing a shot on the run, but its not at the crappy full attack bonuses.

Manyshot is by no stretch of the imagination equal to or a replacement for sneak attack damage. Basically at BAB +6 and for every additional +5 BAB you can shoot another arrow, with all arrows hitting based on a single attack roll (picture the Cover of "Robin Hood : Men in Tights" where he has multiple arrows notched), up to a max of 4 arrows as a single attack.

As written the feat is arguably too good since it's only a -2 to your to hit irregardless of the number of arrows shot. However the feat designer has suggested (and I think it makes more sense) that it be a -2/per additional arrow or a total of -6 at 4 arrows.

Also it functions like a shuriken attack in that most damage bonuses only function on the first arrow (crit, Sneak attack etc...), but mighty and magical + would be added.

You could only get off one or possibly two (if hasted) per round, it is not a one to one replacement for regular attacks as it is a standard action to perform.