BtVS Spoilers (11/25/02)
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Yes yes yes,
I knew it was the first evil ever since the visitations episode. I love it when a show is so consistent in style that you can tell a villain from their MO.
All in all I htought this was a completly rocking episode, it was really great at ratcheting up the tension and revealling more of the plot without even really telling us what is going on. I am sorry they blew up the council though, I wanted to see Sunnydale invaded by the tea and crumpet brigade armed to the teeth.
My only real complaint is that they still haven't shown us what happened to Giles, darn it.
<raving fan boy mode off>
On more detailed analysis did Xanders monlogue about having his heart ripped out and replaced with darkness strike anyone as just a bit bad? How do we know that something more isn't going on with him? Especially given the fact that they have done nothing to show the FE messing with him.
Also what do you think is up with the vampire that was freed from the seal. It looke similar to the master but I am more than willing to attribute that to the effects that vamps suffer from age. The real question is how old is it and what was the first evils motivation in raising it?
I knew it was the first evil ever since the visitations episode. I love it when a show is so consistent in style that you can tell a villain from their MO.
All in all I htought this was a completly rocking episode, it was really great at ratcheting up the tension and revealling more of the plot without even really telling us what is going on. I am sorry they blew up the council though, I wanted to see Sunnydale invaded by the tea and crumpet brigade armed to the teeth.
My only real complaint is that they still haven't shown us what happened to Giles, darn it.
<raving fan boy mode off>
On more detailed analysis did Xanders monlogue about having his heart ripped out and replaced with darkness strike anyone as just a bit bad? How do we know that something more isn't going on with him? Especially given the fact that they have done nothing to show the FE messing with him.
Also what do you think is up with the vampire that was freed from the seal. It looke similar to the master but I am more than willing to attribute that to the effects that vamps suffer from age. The real question is how old is it and what was the first evils motivation in raising it?
Angelsboi
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Jenny was a great character and i cried when she died and what Angelus did to Giles.
And yes, he did look like the Master but i have found one fault. Kakistos. Or as Buffy called him, Taquitos. He was so old and ancient, he had cloven hooves. How come this first evil vampire that Giles spoke about doesnt?
And yes, he did look like the Master but i have found one fault. Kakistos. Or as Buffy called him, Taquitos. He was so old and ancient, he had cloven hooves. How come this first evil vampire that Giles spoke about doesnt?
kreynolds
First Post
Honestly, I barely found this episode interesting at all. The dialog between Buffy and Spike (in the chair) seemed forced, though the bit where she says she sees a lot of good in him, and believes that he can be a good man, was very touching.
The black robe guys actually had trouble fighting Xander?! What the heck is that all about? They kill potential frickin' slayers, and their watchers, for a living!!!
The watchers council gets blown up (totally uncreative and unimaginative). Like they ever do anything anyway.
Oh, and of course there was the lame as heck so called "big bad". Master vampire, huh? Been there. Killed that. I enjoyed the "big bad" more when I though it was the shape-shifting thing-a-ma-bob. Heck, even Blade II did a better job with the Reapers than they did with the makeup on this BB master vampire.
The only thing I liked about this episode was the scenes with Anya and Xander. Those were funny as hell.
The black robe guys actually had trouble fighting Xander?! What the heck is that all about? They kill potential frickin' slayers, and their watchers, for a living!!!
The watchers council gets blown up (totally uncreative and unimaginative). Like they ever do anything anyway.
Oh, and of course there was the lame as heck so called "big bad". Master vampire, huh? Been there. Killed that. I enjoyed the "big bad" more when I though it was the shape-shifting thing-a-ma-bob. Heck, even Blade II did a better job with the Reapers than they did with the makeup on this BB master vampire.
The only thing I liked about this episode was the scenes with Anya and Xander. Those were funny as hell.
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John Crichton
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Very entertaining episode. Answered a few questions but brought up twice as many more. I still don't think we are getting the full story. Yeah, the First Evil is involved but I believe there is more to it than that. Count on it. 
I liked the whole thing with the Watcher's Council. I liked Buffy & Spike's coversations. The Andrew/Willow, Andrew/Anya/Xander & Wood/Dawn interactions were great, too. Easily one of the best eps of the season. I think we are getting a total of 2 new Buffy's over the next 2 months. Doh.
I liked the whole thing with the Watcher's Council. I liked Buffy & Spike's coversations. The Andrew/Willow, Andrew/Anya/Xander & Wood/Dawn interactions were great, too. Easily one of the best eps of the season. I think we are getting a total of 2 new Buffy's over the next 2 months. Doh.
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