[Buffy] New Episode Tonight. Don't forget! [SPOILERS]

[The Dungeon Nazi]

Re: Re: Faith

Actually, the books that Giles brought with him were in one of the Slayer-to-be's backpack. He had her dump them on the table and never actually touched them himself.

Also, when they returned from the Eye dimension, Giles said that it was because Buffy was still alive after having died. Anya assumed that it's because of the second resurrection (which it may be), but in the first episode of the season, The First told Spike they were "going back to the beginning". This makes me believe that it goes back to when the whole two Slayer thing first started.

Just my $.02, of course.

You know, last season there was about half an episode where Spike realized he could beat the snot out of Buffy without any ill effects from his chip. Then, towards the end of the season, he went after her again in the rape scene. He had that one moment of lucidity, where he was like, "You came back wrong, Slayer!" and they never did a thing with it. Nobody seemed to mention it again. I think that's a factor here.

Then again, if it's something Buffy did, maybe it was saving Dawn, and that the Key was never meant to stay in human form indefinitely? What if she winds up having to slay Dawn to set things right again?

I had another really insightful thought, but I forgot what it was, so I'm just going to mention that from here on out, I'm watching the show first and foremost because I understand everything that comes out of Andrew's mouth.

 

[DanMcS]

Re: Re: Re: Faith

*shrug*. I'm pretty darn sure he does handle at least one of them at some point. I don't have a videotape to refer to, though, so I cannot prove it.

Nope. Never touches them. That's what got the whole conversation started in the first place, look in whatever older thread that was, Buffy 12/something, the details are there.

I didn't see Anya hit his coat, but it's possible, and that's the kind of extremely subtle clue that would be thrown in, just at the end of the episode like that.

I imagine this will all be put to rest by the end of the season, either we'll find out he's the first and they'll flash back to show that axe completing it's hit, or they'll get suspicious of him and he'll prove he's a real boy, and they'll flash back to show him avoiding the hit and taking out that Bringer.

 

[DanMcS]

Re: Re: Re: Faith

You know, last season there was about half an episode where Spike realized he could beat the snot out of Buffy without any ill effects from his chip. Then, towards the end of the season, he went after her again in the rape scene. He had that one moment of lucidity, where he was like, "You came back wrong, Slayer!" and they never did a thing with it. Nobody seemed to mention it again. I think that's a factor here.

They did explain that, Buffy confessed all to Tara and Tara investigated, she decided Buffy was perfectly fine but it was the lingering extradimensional magic from her resurrection that was throwing off the chip. It was lame, but it was explained.

 

[The Dungeon Nazi]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Faith

They did explain that, Buffy confessed all to Tara and Tara investigated, she decided Buffy was perfectly fine but it was the lingering extradimensional magic from her resurrection that was throwing off the chip. It was lame, but it was explained.

When did this happen?

Well, obviously, before Tara got shot dead. But I swear, this is the first I've ever heard of this. Then again, I just found out today that Giles "dreamed of being a fighter pilot or a grocer," so I guess I shouldn't feel so awful.

Did I like miss an entire ep, or was this sort of breezed over in a few minutes across an episode?

 

[RatPunk]

Re: Re: Re: Faith

*shrug*. I'm pretty darn sure he does handle at least one of them at some point. I don't have a videotape to refer to, though, so I cannot prove it.

Can someone who taped the shows since Giles' return verify this, one way or the other, please?

Actually, I have them on tape and just watched that episode on Sunday night to prepare for the new episode on Tuesday.

Just to triple check, I just watched it and the new one again: Giles has Annabell take the books out of her backpack and lay them on the table. Willow, Anya and Buffy all lean forward and grab one. Giles continues to pace around the table with his hands in his pockets as he talks.

Anya does brush against his coat very briefly when they return from the Eye's dimension. Buffy also apparently brushes up against it a couple of times as they walk to the christmas tree lot.

Then again, the Slayers-to-be did make a big deal about living in the same house with The First/Eve for a couple of days and nobody noticing...

Also Giles clarifies to Anya when they return that the Eye said it wasn't something Buffy did, it's the fact that she's living, at which point Anya blames the group for bringing her back.

I obviously need more to do with my evenings...

 

[Kenpo Wolf]

I recorded it and can't wait to watch it tonight. TV is so much better recorded, you can watch it in half the time.

I hate those damn commercials too If it were up to me, I would put commercial blocks at the end of shows so there would be no interruptions

 

[Gumby]

Those of you interested The First Evil's take on all this should visit her Livejournal:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/thefirstevil

Even more pissed off at the Slayer than usual. Not only does she kill my very favorite minion but she steals my vampire (though frankly at least the poetry is now gone from my lair), all the while tripping on her cheery way and somehow cramming yet more nubile young women into her house. Just wait till social services investigate my anonymous tip that the resident of 1630 Revello Drive is running a brothel, then we'll see who's all clever quips and flippy hair.

 

[AuroraGyps]

I was thinking that maybe it's not that Buffy's alive again, but that she had died sacrificing herself to save Dawn. While she was dead, Faith was in prison. So, there was an activated Slayer that was unable to perform her duties... so in effect there was NO Slayer for several monthes. I'd think that would be the time The First would really "wake up" and then build up it's powers over last season.

 

[Welverin]

I was thinking that maybe it's not that Buffy's alive again, but that she had died sacrificing herself to save Dawn. While she was dead, Faith was in prison. So, there was an activated Slayer that was unable to perform her duties... so in effect there was NO Slayer for several monthes. I'd think that would be the time The First would really "wake up" and then build up it's powers over last season.

I've also been thinking it's related to the whole Dawn/Glory cycle.

Oh, as for barely touching Giles on the way out of the portal, it could have simply been an accident during shooting. There are much bigger gaffes that happen in tv shows and movies all the time.

Of course what really stuck out to me is how he's still wearing that same coat, didn't pay enough attention to the rest of his clothes, and at all times of the day and night. Everyone else seems to have the good sense to change their clothes on occasion, well except for Andrew who was tied up and all.

 

[Morrus]

Of course what really stuck out to me is how he's still wearing that same coat, didn't pay enough attention to the rest of his clothes, and at all times of the day and night. Everyone else seems to have the good sense to change their clothes on occasion, well except for Andrew who was tied up and all.

Oh, I dunno. How many overcoats are you going to take with you when you rush abroad i an ermergency situation...?

In fact, thinking about it, I only own one warm overcoat. I wear it all the time during the winter.