There is only a bonus to escape if the grabbed target is trained in the skill they are trying to use to escape. Otherwise, the grab and the escape should have about the same bonus, stat plus half level vs Reflex or Fortitude. Most monsters are not trained in Athletics or Acrobatics. PC's have the slight upper hand escaping a grab at low levels, though at high levels that upper hand slowly diminishes.
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Can a Grabbed Target Make Attacks?
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There is only a bonus to escape if the grabbed target is trained in the skill they are trying to use to escape. Otherwise, the grab and the escape should have about the same bonus, stat plus half level vs Reflex or Fortitude. Most monsters are not trained in Athletics or Acrobatics. PC's have the slight upper hand escaping a grab at low levels, though at high levels that upper hand slowly diminishes.
WizarDru
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Grabbing does seem pretty weak, but it has its advantages. We played our final session of "Keep on the Shadowfell" on Saturday, and my fighter used grab to drag the BBEG out of his zone of healing so that the party could wail on him. Of course, due to the new grab, he was still free to club me over the head with his rod of ruin, but my strength made it so that he had virtually no chance of escaping.
If powers come out to enhance the grab manuever, then that would be suitable. Right now it feels pretty weak and the simplicity of the implementation is probably a victim of making grapple not a confusing mess.
If powers come out to enhance the grab manuever, then that would be suitable. Right now it feels pretty weak and the simplicity of the implementation is probably a victim of making grapple not a confusing mess.
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