Can someone explain?
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Numion
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Wouldn't it be easier for a 40ft creature to dodge 10ft Lightning Ball than for a 6ft creature?
The dragon only has to move it's claw/head/tail out of harms way, while a human has to move his whole body out of the area. If your argument was that big creatures should be slower, then I don't know. I wouldn't say dragons are naturally slower than humans; their average dex is the same as humans. But then again, I'm a BADDass
The dragon only has to move it's claw/head/tail out of harms way, while a human has to move his whole body out of the area. If your argument was that big creatures should be slower, then I don't know. I wouldn't say dragons are naturally slower than humans; their average dex is the same as humans. But then again, I'm a BADDass
Tsyr
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Nice sounding logic, Num, it doesn't hold up though.
10 foot ball of lighting aimed strait at human, human has to move a mere 5 feet 1 inch to dodge it. (Assuming it's strait at the human, less otherwise).
10 foot ball of lighting aimed at the center of a 40 foot dragon, the 40 foot dragon has to move 20 (half of their total size) feet + the additional 5 feet 1 inch to dodge it.
If your wizard is aiming at it's feet your wizard is stupid and should be put out of his misery
I don't care how fast the barn is moving, I still have an easier target in it's broadside than the broadside of a human moving at a similar speed.
10 foot ball of lighting aimed strait at human, human has to move a mere 5 feet 1 inch to dodge it. (Assuming it's strait at the human, less otherwise).
10 foot ball of lighting aimed at the center of a 40 foot dragon, the 40 foot dragon has to move 20 (half of their total size) feet + the additional 5 feet 1 inch to dodge it.
If your wizard is aiming at it's feet your wizard is stupid and should be put out of his misery
I don't care how fast the barn is moving, I still have an easier target in it's broadside than the broadside of a human moving at a similar speed.
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Axiomatic Unicorn
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whatisitgoodfor said:
I did not say that at all. Like I said, I don't have a perfect answer, but comparing a statement specifically about dragon scales to natural armor bonus in general is a wild extrapolation.
I am saying that I am comfortable viewing the dragon's scales as being, in effect, a part of the dragon that provides BOTH a natural armor bonus and a justification for good reflex saves.
Selfloathing
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pffffft.
BLAH BLAH DRAGONS CAN DO EVERYTHING EVER.
Well whatever you say, Mr. Noobler Mcnooblersun.
I, for one, find a five ton beast deftly dodging out of the way of spells to be funny.
For visual help, imagine the "before" pictures of Subway's Jarrod pulling off the matrix dodge.
Giggle, and etc.
BLAH BLAH DRAGONS CAN DO EVERYTHING EVER.
Well whatever you say, Mr. Noobler Mcnooblersun.
I, for one, find a five ton beast deftly dodging out of the way of spells to be funny.
For visual help, imagine the "before" pictures of Subway's Jarrod pulling off the matrix dodge.
Giggle, and etc.
Simon Magalis
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While we are on the subect of what is realistic... would a normal sized weapon like a longsword do ANY damage to a creature 180 feet long and half as thick? Is there any possible way a bite or a tail slap from something that could easily bite through the toughest armor shouldn't just kill you with two attacks at the most? I think the PC's come out pretty well as far as realism in a fight with a dragon is concerned. Think about it... it might hurt like hell, but imagine 6 inch men running up to you and trying to staple you to death. It would probably not go well for them (unless you enjoy that sort of thing )
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mkletch
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Dingleberry said:
10 dex means average mobility for a creature of that size. The size mods to AC take care of that angle, but they should also apply to Reflex saves. For that matter, flip the size modifier progression over and use it for Fort saves (big size = big fort bonus for size).
Look, 3E is a rules system, not a reality system. And it's a simple system at that. If you want reality, 3E is not your game. Why do dragons have a high reflex save? To be consistent with their high hit dice (i.e. so the rules are internally consistent). There is no 'reason'. All of the justifications presented in this thread, one way or the other, are pointless. Sorry, it's just the way it is.
-Fletch!
DizzyKungFu
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If you want to see a big lizard move fast, watch "Godzilla", the American one. With Matthew Brodoric (sp?). I'm not saying it's a good movie (it's kinda bad actually, especially for fans of the old Godzilla movies), but Godzilla is the size of a small skyscraper, but it was dodging missles and outrunning helicopters chasing after it in New York City streets.
