ChatGPT lies then gaslights reporter with fake transcript

[Cadence]

Related Q: AI skeptics, how many of you have tried "deep research"? It does much better with returning a variety of cited sources.

It really doesn't.

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Where she shows it cited a non-existent paper of hers.

I'm an associate editor for a journal and recently had to send a note to the editor when something submitted had several non-existent papers in the reference section...

I think news stories of lawyers using it and putting fake cases in their court filings have been mentioned in some other threads on here.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Don't insist it's not slop, don't invent my "stringent standards", don't describe it as "consumer level" or "average-quality", don't call me "elitist" when you haven't even seen what you're describing.

It is certainly bad, but have you looked at fanfiction websites? It's mostly crud as well. The consumer expections are low when it comes to writing. Also, I think the worst offenders are in the first case, deliberately trying to pass as made by the original author.

Look at the thread about AI-generated fantasy illustration on this board. It is full of people, like me, satisfied with "consumer-level" art. None of it will be on the level of what a human illustrator could do (yet).

Because, no offence, but that's slop, too. It's a waste of both of our time.

Well, there is no point in us interacting on what is slop, then. I'll agree that we're disagreeing on this.

 

[trappedslider]

Note the comment about a new HVAC, plumbing, and electrical. So we put in an offer. Inspector came and said that not only was it not a new HVAC, the HVAC wasn't even working. When our real estate agent confronted theirs, their agent said, "I used ChatGPT to write that listing, it's not my fault. It's ChatGPTs." He honestly thinks he did nothing wrong and still is blaming ChatGPT.

So, do we blame the tool for existing or do we blame the person who used the tool? Or are both at fault?

 

[dragoner]

I'm an associate editor for a journal and recently had to send a note to the editor when something submitted had several non-existent papers in the reference section...

I think news stories of lawyers using it and putting fake cases in their court filings have been mentioned in some other threads on here.

Yes, if one has to double check everything it does, that is 2x the workload. So like if I am doing structural steel calculations for an elevator tower, it's pointless, I am not touching that. I do see where people just doing useless document generating can get away with it, because nobody reads those anyways. I do my share of that also, though the important stuff I often triple check anyway. Making it double workload, also increases costs by double, nobody is doing anything for free.

 

[Cadence]

So, do we blame the tool for existing or do we blame the person who used the tool? Or are both at fault?

What about the company that approves the advertising for the tool?

 

[dragoner]

So, do we blame the tool for existing or do we blame the person who used the tool? Or are both at fault?

I agree, anyone using AI should be castigated, and vilified. Problem solved. lol

 

[Cadence]

Yes, if one has to double check everything it does, that is 2x the workload. So like if I am doing structural steel calculations for an elevator tower, it's pointless, I am not touching that. I do see where people just doing useless document generating can get away with it, because nobody reads those anyways. I do my share of that also, though the important stuff I often triple check anyway. Making it double workload, also increases costs by double, nobody is doing anything for free.

I sometimes use it to double check calculations/math/algorithms/proofs I've done. (It's always interesting to see what it tends to get right and what it doesn't).

 

[dragoner]

I sometimes use it to double check calculations I've done. (It's always interesting to see what it tends to get right and what it doesn't).

Does it get them right? As far as I have seen, it can't do math, not the kind of math I can do. Which to be fair most everbody can't, that is why engineers get hired.

 

[Morrus]

Look at the thread about AI-generated fantasy illustration on this board.

How does that thread prove that the 'novels' on Amazon are not slop?

It is full of people, like me, satisfied with "consumer-level" art.

"Consumer-level" is your words, not mine. The slop I am trying to tell you about is not "consumer-level", as you'd realise if you looked at it.

Or don't look at it. But then don't waste your time and mine challenging my description of it.

 

[Scribe]

So, do we blame the tool for existing or do we blame the person who used the tool? Or are both at fault?

What good is a tool that literally makes naughty word up?