Clarfication needed for Glove of Storing

[Murrdox]

I agree. Beat your DM over the head with a stick, and tell him that it's made up of a few hundred thousand wooden fibers, and as such, won't fit in the Glove.

 

[kreynolds]

Our DM is a bit picky about the rules and says that putting a loaded crossbow into a GoS would mean to put two items into it (the crossbow and the bolt)...

Technically, he's right. A crossbow and bolt would constitute two items...but who gives a crap?

k "stealin' tag lines and lettin' the old ~sean outta the box" reynolds

 

[Pax]

I think the key factor is not whether an object is composed of multiple pieces, or sub-objects, like say the crossbow (or torch, if you like). I think the important factor is whether or not, in the mind of the person using the glove, the object they try to place in the glove is one object in terms of utility. I think it has to work that way- how would the glove know a single object from a composite object?

In terms of utility? So, a swiss army knife wouldn't get Stored ... ?

I say a crossbow is a single item, period. it's "A loaded crossbow" not "a crossbow with a seperate, unloaded, bolt".

Heck, I'd allow someone (with the glove on their off-hand) to store a BOW with a nocked (BUT NOT DRAWN!) arrow, too.

However, I cannot agree with beating the GMwith a stick.

It's too gentle.

Use a LEAD PIPE.

 

[Taloras]

Hmm.....id agree for beating the DM with a pipe. or a greatclub

On a similar topic, does a glove of storing hold spell durations in stasis as well (cant find my DMG). Say, cast darkness on a small rock, store it(no darkness). cast blindsight on yourself before going into combat. draw the rock and put it in your off hand. Kill enemies.

Im not sure if it would work. Gotta check w/ the DM after i find this out.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Durations continue as normal. Otherwise you have the "permanent GMW effect", where one casting of Greater Magic weapon, lasting, say, 10000 rounds, is only ever out of the Glove for the duration of a combat... say, 10 rounds.

Also, because of the way the Glove works - shrinking things down really small instead of storing them in extra-dimensional space - it's a DM's call as to whether silence or darkness are affected by being Stored.

Of course, with Darkness, you could control it just by closing your hand, since the item is shrunk down on your palm. Silence could be trickier.

-Hyp.

 

[Keith]

I agree that having spell durations frozen is a frightening prospect, but the item description says nothing about this. It refers to the item being in stasis; I don't know what exactly that means in game terms, although I know what it means more broadly. A lit torch staying lit and unconsumed suggests that time is not passing for the item; are spells immune to this "stasis" effect? Where do the books say so? I would DM it that way myself, I am just wondering if there is any concrete support for it.

 

[GuardianLurker]

"loaded xbow" is right at the edge, as far as I'm concerned. Personally, this is probably a classic "if you hadn't asked" moment.

As for the others...

"box of dominoes"? "Bag of gold pieces"?

Contained in the box or bag, fine. You're really just storing the box/bag, and the dominoes/gp come along for the ride.

"Stack of paper" (as opposed to "book")?

Bound, fine. Loose, problem.

"One meal's worth of dry rations"? "Calligraphy kit"? "Disguise kit"?

Assuming bound together in a sack or box, fine. As separate items, problem.

"Quiver of arrows"?

Closed, fine. Open, not fine. Considering the standard quiver doesn't over covering/closing flaps, not fine.

"Pair of boots"?

Not fine. Unless, maybe, you tie them together.

"Charm bracelet full of charms"?

Fine. You're storing a single item, just like a pearl necklace is also safe.

Basic rule: anything you can pick up in a single hand without worrying about it coming apart is safe. Also, if you use the word "and" in describing the item ("scabbard AND sword", as opposed to "sheathed sword") it's probably not safe.

 

[Pooka]

my crossbow

Our DM is single minded .... and what else should i have ut into these gloves? A banana? That would be at least two different parts of this to ....
I just thought abaout what if my crossbow dissapears into the glove and because the bolt has nowwhere to go its triggered and hits accidentlyhis character? And he didn´t mention a thing about this whole topic to me just talked with the other about that ...

So it still works and I think that shouldn´t be a Problem at all ...



Pooka

 

[isoChron]

Hi Pooka,
welcome to the board, little halfling.
It's a pitty that our DM will not read this thread and proceed using his narrow minded brain to rule the game...
Oups, to hard ?

BYE

 

[Zenon]

Hmm.....id agree for beating the DM with a pipe. or a greatclub

On a similar topic, does a glove of storing hold spell durations in stasis as well (cant find my DMG). Say, cast darkness on a small rock, store it(no darkness). cast blindsight on yourself before going into combat. draw the rock and put it in your off hand. Kill enemies.

Im not sure if it would work. Gotta check w/ the DM after i find this out.

I had sent this as a question to Customer Support at WotC. I don't have the response here to quote exactly, but in summary it was:

Things are placed in stasis in the glove, but magical effects are not.

So - a burning torch becomes a small piece of cloth shaped like a lit torch. However, the duration on spells in effect keep counting down so when the spell duration is over, it's over. So no super-hyper-extended GMW spells by keeping the item in "stasis" and not counting stored time against duration.

I don't think this is in the FAQ.