Chaosmancer
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I was half-convinced the Fey Wanderer Ranger was a half-orc half-elf, until I confirmed all the orcs have pointy ears.
D&D (2024) Class Iconic Art in the 2024 Player's Handbook
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I was half-convinced the Fey Wanderer Ranger was a half-orc half-elf, until I confirmed all the orcs have pointy ears.
Chaosmancer
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I LOVE that art.
Chaosmancer
Legend
Fair. I could rephrase them as "presenting" which would be more accurate, but like I said, I just like counting. Speaking of...
Aasimar: 4
Tiefling: 5
Dwarf: 5
Elf: 10
Human: 9
Goliath: 4
Orc: 3
Halfling: 4
Gnome: 5
Dragonborn: 7
Unknown: 2 (Mercy Monk I believe is human,
Male: 29
Female: 26
Unknown: 3 (Valor Bard could be the only female dragonborn, Elf Eldritch Knight, and Fiendlock Tielfing)
Hmmm, kind of hoping for an Orc Bard now, but they are only seeming to lack the Lore bard. IT would be really cool to see that, but seems unlikely.
Parmandur
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Still a bit open, I thought thst Goliath I'm the Ceremony casting picture was going to ne the Light Cleric for a hot second today.
Dollars to donuts it turns out that the Open Hamd Monk is an Orc.
Upper_Krust
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Thanks to the OP for posting these, great to see all the new class art side by side.
Really like the female elf Bard, human Berserker, dwarf Fighter and human Soulknife illustrations.
However...
Are we looking at the same illustrations?
I'm counting 33 female characters, 14 male characters, 2 where its 50/50, 1 wearing a mask and 7 Dragonborn...
In order of the illustrations in the OP....
Bard: Dragonborn, F, F
Barbarian: F, M, F, Dragonborn, F
Cleric: F, M, F, F, F
Druid: F, F, F, M, F
Fighter: M, F, F, F, Dragonborn
Monk: Dragonborn, Masked, F, M
Paladin: F, F, F, Dragonborn, M
Ranger: M, Human-Indeterminate, F, M, F
Rogue: F, Dragonborn, F, M, M
Sorcerer: F, Dragonborn, M, M, F
Warlock: M, F, Aasimar-Indeterminate, F, F
Wizard: F, F, F, F, M
How can you tell?
Really like the female elf Bard, human Berserker, dwarf Fighter and human Soulknife illustrations.
However...
Are we looking at the same illustrations?
I'm counting 33 female characters, 14 male characters, 2 where its 50/50, 1 wearing a mask and 7 Dragonborn...
In order of the illustrations in the OP....
Bard: Dragonborn, F, F
Barbarian: F, M, F, Dragonborn, F
Cleric: F, M, F, F, F
Druid: F, F, F, M, F
Fighter: M, F, F, F, Dragonborn
Monk: Dragonborn, Masked, F, M
Paladin: F, F, F, Dragonborn, M
Ranger: M, Human-Indeterminate, F, M, F
Rogue: F, Dragonborn, F, M, M
Sorcerer: F, Dragonborn, M, M, F
Warlock: M, F, Aasimar-Indeterminate, F, F
Wizard: F, F, F, F, M
How can you tell?
Chaosmancer
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I forgot we didn't see the Open Hand
Chaosmancer
Legend
Those are awesome.
Yep, but we might be reading them differently. I go over the differences in our interpretations below. Just want to start out with a whole-hearted "I just love talking about art". You may be right, I may be right, that part doesn't really matter to me. I'm just trying to clear up confusion between our interpretations.
Huh, you think the Dance bard is female? I can see it, I was honestly thinking of Scanlan Shorthalt when looking at it though, so I thought it was a guy. Could go either way I suppose.
Ah, definitely disagree that the iconic druid with the animals is female. They could be trans, but we've seen them in other art, like the healing of the Barbarian, and they read as male to me. I'm also not sure why you see the Sea Druid Goliath as female, would you mind clarifying?
Elf Eldritch Knight I had as ambiguous, that art is 98% the outfit. I can see why you might think the Psy Warrior is a female, but they remind me more strongly of some male characters I have seen. Could go either way.
Yeah, disagree about the Oath of Heroism Tiefling. I could be persuaded that they just have a very masculine face, but they read as male to me.
You think the Hunter Ranger is indeterminate? Huh. Again, could be trans, but they have some beard scruff, so they read as male to me.
I read the tiefling fiendlock as indeterminate. I think they could go either way. Meanwhile, the Celestial Aasimar I read as male. I can sort of see how you could get indeterminate from there, but it wasn't where I was going with it.
Ah, I read the Evoker Wizard elf as male. Elves can be tricky though, since they lean into the androgynous very easily.
Honestly? I can't. A lot of it is vibes and design decisions, which I may be misreading. For example, the design of the Zealot Barbarian Dragonborn with the eyepatch? They read like a salty sea captain to me, which had me put them as male. Then there are things that may not matter, but pushed me in that direction, like the Vengeance Paladin looking like they have a goatee.
My first pass through, I considered that there may not be ANY female dragonborn, which is why I ended up noting that this may be an art style direction to lean into that reptilian anatomy and make it hard to tell. Since the list and the numbers were just for fun though, I didn't see a reason not to go with my gut feelings on them.
I just find it quite funny that without breast people really can't tell dragonborn's gender, just as WotC thought when making 4e and giving their female breast just for miniature recognition.
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Human - 13
Elf - 10
Dragonborn - 7
Dwarf - 5
Gnome - 5
Tiefling - 5
Aasimar - 4
Halfling - 4
Goliath - 3
Orc - 3
My final count (without Open Hand). Counting Mercy Monk, Life Cleric, GOOLock, and Psi Warrior as humans. Goliath's art everywhere else shows non-human skin tones and clear body markings that are not present on any of these that we can see.
Elf - 10
Dragonborn - 7
Dwarf - 5
Gnome - 5
Tiefling - 5
Aasimar - 4
Halfling - 4
Goliath - 3
Orc - 3
My final count (without Open Hand). Counting Mercy Monk, Life Cleric, GOOLock, and Psi Warrior as humans. Goliath's art everywhere else shows non-human skin tones and clear body markings that are not present on any of these that we can see.
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